This morning was extremely bad, dangerous I would say. In less than a minute side windows and windshield were very difficult to see out of. No matter what setting I used, nothing seemed to help. Anyone else seen this issue??
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There is a temporary fix that your dealer can do at any time. The replacement valves are not available yet but should be soon.
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Mine fogs up at times also but right at the minute i just don't have the time to get it to the dealer. What I have found that gets me by for now is:
--Adjust the small side vents so the air is blowing out toward the windows.
--Crank the air conditioning up.
--Hit all the defrost buttons.
Seems to work at least in the weather conditions I experience. Pacific Northwest. Rain, freezing and warmer.
The Auto/start feature has quit working also. I don't really care because it's......weird but it's something that should be working so it's a fault in the "system".
Car drives like a dream.
--Adjust the small side vents so the air is blowing out toward the windows.
--Crank the air conditioning up.
--Hit all the defrost buttons.
Seems to work at least in the weather conditions I experience. Pacific Northwest. Rain, freezing and warmer.
The Auto/start feature has quit working also. I don't really care because it's......weird but it's something that should be working so it's a fault in the "system".
Car drives like a dream.
Update on my 2018 Velar R-Dynamic
Took it in on Thursday and they had five (5) recalls to do.
1) Regarding fogging recall code N143 no parts are needed what has happened is the link arm from motor to flap for recirc/outside air is not set right so when it opens it goes passed where it is meant to stop which causes the link are to fall of the motor, this then closes the flap and noe the fresh air cannot get into the car, this has now been fixed because they set the link arm correctly. No more fogging :dance:
2) Recall N106 they have to inspect the rear footwell speaker wires, this is complete
3) Recall N125 Gateway Module (GWM) Configuration, this is complete
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4) Recall N109 and N116 one is to do with changing the armrests between driver and passenger they say that there is to much play in them, the other was something to do with the air suspension bags, these two they need to order parts and I have to go back once they receive.
The service tech at Landrover was really helpful in explaining the points I think going forward I will keep calling them to see if there are other recalls.
Hope this helps, fogging issue has gone away and just love driving this Rover, I have had quite a few Rovers so am use to a few thing go wrong with them.
Took it in on Thursday and they had five (5) recalls to do.
1) Regarding fogging recall code N143 no parts are needed what has happened is the link arm from motor to flap for recirc/outside air is not set right so when it opens it goes passed where it is meant to stop which causes the link are to fall of the motor, this then closes the flap and noe the fresh air cannot get into the car, this has now been fixed because they set the link arm correctly. No more fogging :dance:
2) Recall N106 they have to inspect the rear footwell speaker wires, this is complete
3) Recall N125 Gateway Module (GWM) Configuration, this is complete
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4) Recall N109 and N116 one is to do with changing the armrests between driver and passenger they say that there is to much play in them, the other was something to do with the air suspension bags, these two they need to order parts and I have to go back once they receive.
The service tech at Landrover was really helpful in explaining the points I think going forward I will keep calling them to see if there are other recalls.
Hope this helps, fogging issue has gone away and just love driving this Rover, I have had quite a few Rovers so am use to a few thing go wrong with them.
Yeah good luck with that “fix”. Let’s see how long that lasts.
That was the original fix prescribed on the initial service bulletin, which has since been invalidated after several cars were repaired by setting this “link arm correctly” only to return with the problem again because the initial fix eventually causes link arm failure where you can’t set it properly again. According to some USA dealers including my own, Land Rover has already acknowledged that there is a flaw in the design and have already designated a new replacement part that are to be produced and delivered by the supplier. This is the part we are all waiting for. Some have already received the same “fix” you are describing by setting the arm correctly, only to find out that the arm will eventually fail again. An alternative temporary fix has been to ziptie the flap open until the new redesigned arm replacement arrives. I guess your dealer hasn’t quite gotten the memo yet and are going by an older TSB fix.
My dealership is also awaiting arrival of the new part that Masmole mentioned. I have the temporary fix now and it is working, thankfully.
UPDATE on Velar Fogging windows, Land Rover found the problem and it is a software problem with the vent door opening and closing properly due to the software issue.New software has been released to the dealers and from what i've been told it takes aprox. 1 hour to download the new software to your car and it s a fix:dance:
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How current is this update? We have failed recirc door "valve"/motor, door arms falling off, redesigned valve/motor being sent out to distribution then on to dealers... now it is nothing more than software?
My dealership said it's both hardware and software. Apparently there is a vent arm that the software passes an incorrect open command to. This can cause the physical part to become malformed. The software fix resolves the issue completely IF the physical part has not become malformed. The dealerships are waiting on the physical part replacement (there is a temporary fix they can perform) to replace any that have become bent. In my case the software update and temporary fix resolved the issue, and as soon as the physical part arrives it should be completely fix
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Thanks for clarification and details. This clear description is the first to actually make sense in it's entirety. The conflicting info and lack of follow through has been painful on this thread. The various "facts" from various sources have been laughable... including the LR service managers I meet with on a regular basis. They are so in the dark for all of this save for the temp fix to keep folks on the road.
They temp fix takes minutes to complete. Anyone unwilling to have the temp fix performed until the new arms arrive and software is revised is nuts. We have first hand positive reviews of the temp fix... get it done and accept this entire thing is just a first year glitch and part of being a first year guinea pig dealing with growing pains.
They temp fix takes minutes to complete. Anyone unwilling to have the temp fix performed until the new arms arrive and software is revised is nuts. We have first hand positive reviews of the temp fix... get it done and accept this entire thing is just a first year glitch and part of being a first year guinea pig dealing with growing pains.
Service manager called and said that the part are expected to arrive this week. Wow, quite a long delay from the "early-January" that was originally estimated.
And just to confirm someone else's post regarding this fix: It is indeed both a hardware (actuator arm) replacement and software fix for most Velars. There are a few cases where the owner may not have tried to activate the recirculate button at all, or the car has not been used much that the recirculate flap actuator arm has not been damaged yet, and in such cases a software update may be all that's needed. According to my service advisor, even if the arm wasn't damaged, they are prepared to inspect and likely replace the arm anyway as a precaution.
And just to confirm someone else's post regarding this fix: It is indeed both a hardware (actuator arm) replacement and software fix for most Velars. There are a few cases where the owner may not have tried to activate the recirculate button at all, or the car has not been used much that the recirculate flap actuator arm has not been damaged yet, and in such cases a software update may be all that's needed. According to my service advisor, even if the arm wasn't damaged, they are prepared to inspect and likely replace the arm anyway as a precaution.
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Killer great update masmole. I've been off line with my LR contacts for a few weeks. Software update is time consuming, but easy. Glad to see they will be replacing the flap arms as precautionary.
heckuva lot faster than the first gen L322 front diff failures that were not optional... they were "when the heck is it going to happen". If it weren't for John and RRnet a recall may never have happened on that BMW nightmare
heckuva lot faster than the first gen L322 front diff failures that were not optional... they were "when the heck is it going to happen". If it weren't for John and RRnet a recall may never have happened on that BMW nightmare
As promised, the part did indeed arrive this week. I dropped off my car thursday morning and they fixed everything up by friday (yesterday). The recirculate feature works once again! Even had the opportunity to test it while following a school bus that was spitting out noxious black smoky exhaust home. Apparently, they also did a few service recalls, which included software updates to address some kind of oil indicator, issues with the infotainment system, and to fix a noisy console armrest mechanism that wasn’t noisy in my particular car to begin with, but they did it anyway because it was listed as one of the service campaigns.
Unfortunately, they also fixed one thing that I actually did not want them to fix. They fixed the auto-engine-start/stop function that stopped working on my car a few months ago! ARGGGGHHHH for the love of god I did not want that fixed. Now the start/stop thing is back and annoying me more than ever lol. Oh well
Unfortunately, they also fixed one thing that I actually did not want them to fix. They fixed the auto-engine-start/stop function that stopped working on my car a few months ago! ARGGGGHHHH for the love of god I did not want that fixed. Now the start/stop thing is back and annoying me more than ever lol. Oh well
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HOWLING!!! THe most insipid issue for EPA standards and you managed to pass by it..... and they caught you updating and fixing everything else. :mrgreen:
jeez guy I can't help but feel for ya.
jeez guy I can't help but feel for ya.
There is a recall coming for the Fogging issue in the US. https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls?nhtsaId=18V139
Looks like it will be active April 23rd
Looks like it will be active April 23rd
My FE Velar is in the shop (parts finally arrived) today and it is supposed to be ready tomorrow. All of our issues seem to mirror each other.As promised, the part did indeed arrive this week. I dropped off my car thursday morning and they fixed everything up by friday (yesterday). The recirculate feature works once again! Even had the opportunity to test it while following a school bus that was spitting out noxious black smoky exhaust home. Apparently, they also did a few service recalls, which included software updates to address some kind of oil indicator, issues with the infotainment system, and to fix a noisy console armrest mechanism that wasn’t noisy in my particular car to begin with, but they did it anyway because it was listed as one of the service campaigns.
Unfortunately, they also fixed one thing that I actually did not want them to fix. They fixed the auto-engine-start/stop function that stopped working on my car a few months ago! ARGGGGHHHH for the love of god I did not want that fixed. Now the start/stop thing is back and annoying me more than ever lol. Oh well
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