No issues whatsoever with my p550e. Drives beautifully.

 

1 year old, 15k miles, no issues

 

After 30k km (8 months) of which 20k electric my Charge module failed. Drove 4 months without charging due to backorder. Now it charges again. For the rest no issues and mobility was always guaranteed.

 

Nearly 2 years and 13000 miles with my P460e. No issues. The only visits to the dealer have been for a service and one security software update that could not be done OTA. I might add that the calibration of the EV motor and ICE is so good that its virtually impossible to detect changeover.

 

I’ll echo that Mike. The transition between EV and ICE (and back again) is virtually seamless.

EV is plenty powerful enough for day to day journeys, with more than enough power in hybrid mode when required.

I’ve had the car for 7 months and still look forward to driving it.

I’m looking forward to trying out the full EV when it finally hits the dealerships.

 

Another thing to consider is dealer location. If u run into any PHEV issues, no indy dealer will touch the vehicle. U have to take it back to dealer for dx.....When I owned my former RRS, the LR dealer was out of town and I disliked it each time I had to take it there ..ended up waiting in their lounge. With bmw, the dealer is in my city and provides free shutttle pickup/dropoff within 25 miles radius.

 

The reason for asking is that we have a Full Fat PHEV in my family and it has been a disaster.

 

18,000 km (11600 miles)and 11 months with my P460e , no issues and very economical at around 70 to 80 mpg. Have to look at the dash to see which mode it is in.

 

2 months with our P550e - generally fantastic experience overall. We have about 2000 total miles on the odo, with 1700 of those miles being EV-only. We see between 55-60 miles on a full charge.

Vehicle is super comfortable, virtually silent (modulo point #2 below). The Meridian 3D sound is ~okay, a little disappointing but still solid.

Two minor annoyances, that are not likely related to being a PHEV:

• The massage seats don't fully deflate in the upper backrest, depending on the massage program you ran and the position of the massage bladder when the program turns off. This sounds crazy but becomes super uncomfortable when they don't fully deflate and are poking in your back.
• We are hearing a weird rattle from the B pillar. It's not clear to me if it's related to the seal or something in the actual pillar itself. It's not always present, but is rather annoying when it gets into one of its moods.

I brought the vehicle in to the dealer for both of these and they said they couldn't find anything wrong. But they are reasonably reproducible.

All said, a great vehicle and I would definitely choose the PHEV version again.

 

Nearly 2 years and 13000 miles with my P460e. No issues. The only visits to the dealer have been for a service and one security software update that could not be done OTA. I might add that the calibration of the EV motor and ICE is so good that its virtually impossible to detect changeover.

Nearly 2 years and 13000 miles with my P460e. No issues. The only visits to the dealer have been for a service and one security software update that could not be done OTA. I might add that the calibration of the EV motor and ICE is so good that its virtually impossible to detect changeover.

Hi Mike As a newcomer wondered if you could help ..
About to order a P460E or D300.
Could you tell me what’s the aprox cost of a charge per night using a standard wall charger at NON E rates .- thus given aprox 50 mile range .
This guide could help me when deciding.
Pleased to hear you are enjoying.
BW
John

 

The cost per night is a simple calulation, it's your rate per kWh multiplied by the the number of kWh that need replacing.

So to charge from zero to full 38.2 kWh could be 0.07 x 38.2 = £2.67 or any other combination of costs and battery state of charge.

You need to provide your personal energy costs.

 

7p is typical EV night rate in the UK which requires that sort of tariff which I have and I always charge overnight. A typical day rate is about 27p so a lot more expensive

 

Indeed, charging at the normal rate would £10.31, so with petrol around £6 a gallon it is pretty similar cost depending how you drive!

 

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Yes agree — so Diesel at 40 mpg is even more efficient..
The reason I listed the post as I used a demo P460E this weekend.
I done a 100 mile trip — 50 on E — 50 on petrol.
E was aprox £10 — petrol was aprox £20 - total £30 .
D300 — 100 miles at 40 mpg / 2.5 gals -at £5.90 gal = £14.75 .
Yes the charge would be much less on ev charge
But what else is missing.
John

 

It’s all down to your mix of driving, over a total of 24,000 miles I am averaging 72.5 mpg and that’s with the predecessor P400e and only a max of 30 EV miles.
Looking forward to the delivery of my P460e and even better efficiency.

 

Yes totally agree ,
I will also mention that I also road tested back to back - 460E with D300.
and the Hybrid was the winner with acceleration and feel .
However to take advantage of the Hybid for efficiency you must take full control of the energy options ie solar / ev night rates etc.
Finally we must also check out the MPG shown on Hybrids— one must build in the energy cost to get the true figure .
That’s my 4 penith for what it’s worth but many thanks for your comments.

 

I'm 6 months into P550e ownership. For me it's a perfect combo. Almost all local miles are done in EV mode, making as much use as I can of the off peak rate here in the UK, albeit with a slow 3.8kW 16A charger.

Here's my example calculation... My "worst case" scenario is when I have to charge from empty in one night, which means I can charge ~19kWh in the 5 off-peak hours, and then pay full rate for another 15kWh (battery has only 32kWh usable capacity, but you lose a few kWh due to charging inefficiency), but even then that is under £6 for 55 miles of electric driving. GIven the cost of fuel, it's the equivalent of 60 mpg in ev mode. If I'm organised enough to charge only during off-peak hours, the ev mpg equivalent rockets to 200mpg. If I installed a proper 7kW home charger, rather than using the 16A socket I had for garage tools, I'd be able to charge 100% in one off-peak session, but it would take me a long time to recover the £1000 installation cost (around 250 mixed peak/off-peak charging cycles, so at least a couple of years).

Real fuel economy running on petrol only is around 30mpg (Imperial rather than US gallons), not bad for a 2.5 tonne SUV, and just as good as my old Porsche Cayenne S. In the last 6 months, we've done 2:1 ev vs. petrol mileage, so we're comfortably beating diesel fuel costs, and we still have the ease of fuelling for long trips with the UK's slightly patchy and expensive public charging infrastructure.

To cut a long story short, definitely do your own maths based on how you'll actually charge the car and your ev/petrol mileage mix, then weigh up subjective points like whether you would enjoy wafting around in silent EV mode, or feel it's worth having zero tailpipe emissions in town. I'm enjoying those side benefits even as a committed petrolhead, and certainly enjoying having 550bhp and instant torque on tap.

 

Final word, you do not buy a £100k car and then start worrying about fuel costs!

 

Amen!

But how else would I justify spending the thick end of £100k on a family bus if I didn't try to convince myself it was to save £50 on petrol here and there?