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2002 4.4 V8 Timing Setup

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#1 ·
2002 Range Rover HSE 4.4 V8 Petrol (BMW Engine)

Hi

Wonder if anybody could help me please.

I was in the process of changing the timing chaing gides after I found the best part of them in the sump.

Unfortunatly I did not keep the correct pressure on the main timimg chain and it has jumped teeth.

For some unknown reason I had not put the engine to TDC before starting, I had decided to do it later Doh.

I now have the problem that the pistons are out of time with the camshafts, I know this as I have got the crankshaft to a point where it will not go any futher, it got to that point gently and no force was used to move it on so I'am hoping no damage has been done .

I can back the crankshaft up until piston 1 is TDC and get the cams for piston 1 with the valves closed but my question is when piston 1 is TDC on bank 1 what should bank 2 be doing.

I have read a lot of the info for replacing the guides but cannot find anything that guides you to setting the timing from basic.

Help would be appriciated, if anybody has links etc.

Thanks

Tim
 
#4 ·
At your point you will need to rent or buy the BMW M62 timing kit. It is the only way to get the timing back to stock. It includes the following tools...

1). A pin that is inserted thought the engine block and into the flex plate to hold the engine at #1 TDC.

2). A chain tensioner to hold tension on the main chain while you work.

3). Blocks to hold the cam shafts at the proper position.

4). Blocks to set the vanos cam position sensors.

This is not a hard operation, but it is lengthy. Here is a link to a website that sells vanos repair kits. It has detailed instructions for resetting the timing chains after working on them...

http://www.beisansystems.com/procedures/m62tu_vanos_procedure.htm
 
#5 ·
Shipping to England may be a bit of a deal breaker though.....

Martin
 
#9 ·
Picky picky......:lol:
And dont go getting lippy with Popeye.....

Martin
 
#10 ·
Well if someone is goinna trash a free basic workshop manual should they at least get the name right?

As far as Popeye goes... I saved that photo for use at the most advantageous chance. 8-|=
 
#12 ·
So you have the timing kit, but didn't use it???? Wow....
As a rule, Number one TDC is with No 1 cylinder at TDC AND all valves closed for that cylinder. Easy enough to figure out on anything I have worked on.
You may need to pull the cams and start from scratch though, to save any piston to valve interference.
I have yet to do all this on a VANOS M62 motor, so double check all the general rules apply to them. Never now with those pesky Germans....

Martin
 
#13 ·
I'm afraid that, at the position you are, the valve position is meaningless. The way you will have to find TDC is to pick a direction to turn the crank, and then watch for the piston crown through the #1 spark plug hole. If (or rather when) the crank stops, then turn the cams to move the valves out of the way, so the crank will turn again. When the crank stops, the cams will only turn in one direction, and that will be the same direction you are rurning the crank. Repeat back and forth until you see the piston at the top...then insert you crank pin under the engine bell housing.

The article above gives pics and a description of what position the cam lobes should be in when the crank pin is in. You should not have to remove the cam caps...but if you do, it's essential to keep them in order and oriented as they came off.