[RangeRoverPHEV]

I have a pump that runs off 110V, and the RR has a socket in the center armrest that I should be able to plug into. I believe our Cayenne also has a 12V inflator in lieu of the spare.

You might want to check the amp rating of that socket (There is a 110v socket under the cupholder in the center console? I will look for it). Typical 110v inflators are meant for home use and would draw a lot more power than a typical 12v cigarette lighter inflator. So,be careful and dont blow the fuse of the socket. Also, Costco has a very tiny inflator for only $50. I ordered one because it is so small. Take a look at it. Is there a 12 volt adaptor in the trunk of the RR? The milwaukee unit retains battery power for months and is quite fast at inflating.

 

[bluestraveller]

You might want to check the amp rating of that socket (There is a 110v socket under the cupholder in the center console? I will look for it). Typical 110v inflators are meant for home use and would draw a lot more power than a typical 12v cigarette lighter inflator. So,be careful and dont blow the fuse of the socket. Also, Costco has a very tiny inflator for only $50. I ordered one because it is so small. Take a look at it. Is there a 12 volt adaptor in the truck of the RR? The milwaukee unit retains battery power for months and is quite fast at inflating.

Good point. Yes there is a 110 socket in the car I need to check the amp. There’s also 12v cig lighter sockets in a few places

 

[LuxobargeP550e]

My first post here:

I recently purchased a 25 Velar HSE and absolutely love it. So much so that I just placed an order for a 25 p550e Autobiography in Constellation Blue (SV color), SV Bespoke 22inch wheels style 1072, Caraway interior, Duo tone headlining, and ebony carpet. Just about every other option too. Looks crazy on the build site. Looks like it will be arriving over the summer.

My question is about the reliability factors. I have seen countless videos on concerns about all Range Rovers. But I think with any brand, the more "stuff" that is packed into it, the more that can have an issue. I have had issues with every car I have ever purchased that needed service outside of normal maintenance. So are my concerns about the long term reliability of Range Rovers over blown or basically equivalent to most others out there? I just want to get a read from others on this forum. All comments welcome. Thank you in advance.

 

[pcc125]

@LuxobargeP550e the Range Rover and all recent LR products are as reliable as any other make nowadays. I have owned LR products since 1982 and have had pretty good luck with their cars.

 

[JJ Handy Doc]

I have owned MY24 550e for over a year (about 8k miles) and have not had any issues with it. Had 2 RR previously and without problems. This L460 is by far the best RR in terms of comfort.

 

[LuxobargeP550e]

So here is something I was shocked by when we picked up the Velar. The owner's manual said the first oil service was at 16,000 miles? How is that possible? Also when I look at what is done in that first service, other than changing the oil, the rest are inspections. That is $1,700? $250 or $300 maybe, but $1,700? I'm not being cheap, but that seems a little ridiculous. Am I wrong? Is the oil they are using strained through a espresso machine for the King of England?

If I get the oil changed my my preferred shop, does that void the warrantee?

 

[pcc125]

That will not void the warranty. Just make sure you keep the oil receipt change. The 16000 miles is just what the OEM says. Most folks do it around 10k miles or a least once a year.

 

[LuxobargeP550e]

Got it. And considering everything shows up on Carfax.... Do people generally get their RR serviced at the dealerships? I'm all for spending a lot for an awesome car, but not to over pay for the same service performed else where that is more than 5x less for the same high quality work. I've taken all of my cars for 20 years to the same people and I trust their work. They work on very high end cars for other customers too. A little premium is one thing, but 5x does not make sense to me.

 

[JJ Handy Doc]

It was about $400 for 1 year service/oil change (Castrol Edge Professional 0-20), oil alone is $150-200 at the dealership. Compare to Porsche it's OK

 

[pcc125]

I prefer having my LR dealership perform all the service work. Yes, it will cost more, but they are best equipped to maintain and service these cars especially when there are so many software updates, technical service bulletins that customers are rarely informed about. Oil changes can be done by independent shops, and that is all you are going to get, just an oil change. Dealership operations are expensive, and dealers are required to send their techs to the OEM schools on a regular basis to get training and yearly updates on maintaining LR products. Dealers also have to invest on a regular basis on computers, proprietary OEM software, diagnostic tools and equipment to keep up with the latest vehicles. A lot of tools are forced shipped to dealers whenever a new tool is required to perform a certain task. As an example, a new tool to pull brake calipers might be needed on a particular vehicle; your independent shop will not have access to any special tools sold by the OEM nor any OEM diagnostic software. I like to support my local dealer whenever I service my vehicle. They provide me with a loaner car, wash my car, and simply deliver great service. And as said above, compared to Porsche service, LR service is very reasonable. It was $4k to perform a 20k mile service on my 911.

 

[LuxobargeP550e]

All good points. I appreciate your perspective. Something to think about.

 

[eirik34]

We also had our P550e for first 1 year service at the dealer recently (cost appr. $1000). From the receipt I can see that they've changed oil and updated software, but I'm not sure if they replaced air/cabin filters, wipers etc? Do anyone know if air filter change is part of the yearly service or not?

 

[LuxobargeP550e]

I would say a steak dinner at Sparks in Manhattan should be included for a $1,000 oil change. Then again a dinner for 2 at that restaurant would be $800+ alone. I would think software updates would be covered under the warrantee as it would be with just about any other brand. I'm not trying to make a thing here. If I am spending $185,000 on our 2nd RR, it makes me think their profit margins are greatly enhanced with the over priced charges for service intervals. Like I said I am happy to spend the money on the vehicle, but being over charged on services after the sale does not feel right. An oil change on a 911 is actually a lot of work as there is so much that has to be done with that particular vehicle. But replacing an oil filter and drain/fill the oil isn't rocket science in a RR. Same thing with cabin and under hood air filters. I am more than a little handy around cars, so I know what is involved. This won't stop me from being a happy RR owner with soon to be 2 of them in our household, I just think they are massively over charging for the services provided. Again I am not trying to make a stink about this. Just looking for a general idea on what others are doing and how they feel about it. Much appreciated!

 

[Mark_CT]

I prefer having my LR dealership perform all the service work. Yes, it will cost more, but they are best equipped to maintain and service these cars especially when there are so many software updates, technical service bulletins that customers are rarely informed about. Oil changes can be done by independent shops, and that is all you are going to get, just an oil change. Dealership operations are expensive, and dealers are required to send their techs to the OEM schools on a regular basis to get training and yearly updates on maintaining LR products. Dealers also have to invest on a regular basis on computers, proprietary OEM software, diagnostic tools and equipment to keep up with the latest vehicles. A lot of tools are forced shipped to dealers whenever a new tool is required to perform a certain task. As an example, a new tool to pull brake calipers might be needed on a particular vehicle; your independent shop will not have access to any special tools sold by the OEM nor any OEM diagnostic software. I like to support my local dealer whenever I service my vehicle. They provide me with a loaner car, wash my car, and simply deliver great service. And as said above, compared to Porsche service, LR service is very reasonable. It was $4k to perform a 20k mile service on my 911.

Dealers or the mechanics that work on your car at the dealers are required to upsell that is part of their job evaluations is how many ups they can give to customers and that’s a fact coming from two separate dealerships that I’ve gone to knowing those people these people that worked on the cars they have left and started their own service Companies

 

[pcc125]

yes, they do upsell, but the approval is up to the customer. If they are trying to upsell me an air filter, I always ask to see it and then I will decide whether to approve or not.

 

[Black bird]

We also had our P550e for first 1 year service at the dealer recently (cost appr. $1000). From the receipt I can see that they've changed oil and updated software, but I'm not sure if they replaced air/cabin filters, wipers etc? Do anyone know if air filter change is part of the yearly service or not?

For your $1000 yearly service, check the written receipt they sent it will state on there exactly what they’ve done or if they email it to you obviously check that.

 

[blu191767]

Dealers or the mechanics that work on your car at the dealers are required to upsell that is part of their job evaluations is how many ups they can give to customers and that’s a fact coming from two separate dealerships that I’ve gone to knowing those people these people that worked on the cars they have left and started their own service Companies

Yes on my 21 RR sport the windshield washer fluid unit had a problem now it's my problem described as ware and tear and 1500 even though I have a full warranty I called national customer service who is looking into this for me my car has been with them for 8 days my carpets are ruined from the leak as they stated they will put in some mold control this has been a terrible experience