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P400 owners check your coolant

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So as I have mentioned in other comments and various threads, I stayed away from the Bmw engine because of all the issues I’d read about and my independent mechanic that I used to take our previous Range Rover to told me to stay away from them as well. Been very happy with our six-cylinder, but there was one issue I kept reading about that seems to affect quite a few of those engines and that is the coolant.

I currently have close to 6000 miles on our car and just got it back from the dealer. But noticed around 3000 miles that the coolant level was pretty low. Never got an alert, but because of all the reading on this forum, I made sure to keep checking it. I hoped it was the issue with poor factory filling procedures that had left an air bubble in the system, and so I added my own coolant and kept an eye on it. Unfortunately, I noticed it started to go down again. So I took it to service.

Well, let me tell you I just got the car back and they practically wrote a novel detailing all that they did. To make it as brief as possible they did one pressure test with dye and found multiple leaks at which point they replaced the turbo charger coolant pipes, engine to tank vent pipe, coolant bypass hoses, assembly and thermostat housing to expansion tank hose. Afterwards they pressure tested again and still found a leak and this time they had to lower the engine and subframe and transmission onto a table lift! And then replaced the hose assembly feed for the 2/3 zone climate control?? (Anybody know what that is?) Apparently had to bleed the AC system to do this as well as the air suspension system as well as various other systems. Pressure tested a third time and thankfully now no more leaks.

Well, I’m grateful to the dealership for being so thorough but makes me kind of nervous to now have a car that’s only got 6000 miles that’s essentially been taken apart and put back together again. You can only pray that these technicians working on the car didn’t end up with any extra bolts or screws or that they tightened everything down to spec, transmission components are in anlignment etc. Only time will tell unfortunately.

While thankfully, this hasn’t been one of those leave me stranded type of ordeals that a lot of people have dealt with, it sure doesn’t give you a lot of confidence in Land Rover going forward. Anyway, I hope this helps you all out there with the six-cylinder stay vigilant.
 
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I also dealt with coolant leaks with the P400 motor in a 2023 Defender. Went to the dealer numerous times, and they could never determine the source of the leaks, even after overnight pressure tests. The finally discovered a tiny leak at the water pump. After replacing the water pump, the issue went away.
 
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Sorry for your issues. Pretty crappy that after how many years they can’t source and fix the issue. My biggest concern is the extent of the tear down to get to the various leaks and possible issues down the line. 😐
 
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I noticed that too. Not going to mention anything though. Maybe they had it there at one point and took it off.
I also got a notification from their loaner department that i had traveled outside of the 100 mile radius allowed for a loaner car and that now I'd be charged $1.50 per mile even though i was just in lower Manhattan (about 9 miles from the Brooklyn dealership). I cleared it up with my service advisor - but how strange is that.
 
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I just had to top off on a P400. I cannot see or smell any signs of coolant leaks. The cap? Really? Any others having coolant issues? I'm tempted to diagnose myself with dye vs. taking my entire vehicle apart like they did with @mk23

Mine is a 2023 with 37k on it. I just bought it and did check the service history on it and the only thing done on it was factory interval oil changes. Only 2 oil changes in 37k miles, I guess that's within factory spec but not how I will maintain this vehicle.
 
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If the level stays the same after a while, should be good. As others have said, when the coolant level gets low, there is a leak somewhere. There is no such thing as “these things burn coolant”. That’s total bull ****.
Exactly! Adding a little distilled water here and there from natural evaporation is normal. But there’s no reason a brand new car should go from full in the expansion tank to low or even worse getting an error message. Anybody having to have coolant topped off has a leak unfortunately. The P 400 is known for this issue. Thankfully, it’s the only known issue that I’ve come across compared to the BMW source the engines which are fraught with errors and issues. Hopefully they remedied this for the 2025 models, but why take a chance? Give it to the dealership and have them figure it out.
 
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So update on this thread I started:

Took our Rover in for the 10,000 mile service and amongst other things I noticed, despite having the coolant system supposedly repaired some months back, I had to add a significant amount of coolant in the reservoir just last week to pull it from the minimum cold level to the maximum cold level. I told the dealership about it, and apparently they redid the pressure test on the system and found coolant leaking from the thermostat seal, which I believe they had replaced before. They pressure washed the engine and refilled it so it’s all good to go. But clearly the Achilles’ heel of these ingenium engines seems to be the cooling system.

So again as I had done a PSA to all P 400 owners in the past, keep an eye on your coolant, and if anything other than half a cup of distilled water needs to be added every 6 to 12 months, you have coolant leak somewhere and insist they do a pressure test. Even if you do get yours repaired continue to keep an eye on it.
 
#33 ·
Mine has a slow leak somewhere. I think I am going to put some dye in the coolant system to help me/them identify where it’s leaking. A pressure test just shows it’s leaking somewhere, it won’t tell you where. And when it’s a slow leak it’s hard to see dried coolant.
 
#34 ·
OK, I see. I was assumed when they did a pressure test. They put some dye in to see where coolant is leaking. I did a lot of research on the P400 before I purchased it and these engines have been around for some 8 to 10 years I believe. Overall, the reliability seems to be much better than the BMW source engines. However, seals and rings seem to be where these engines lose coolant and it always seems to be a slow leak. Good luck and keep us posted.
 
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