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The problem with EV is a range. For car like this 500-600 km of a range is a must, but I suspect there will only be something between 200 and 250 km of real range at summer and 120-160 km of real range at winter for RREV. I hope we'll get to know soon.
On top of it the charging time makes huge difference. I will never get any EV unless it can be charged with no lines or delays in 3-5 minutes.
 
Sure. It will take a few more years but it’s getting there. However most people never have to charge outside their home /office. So waiting to charge is mostly only on road trips.

450 range would be perfect imo for those that travel a lot outside of the typical daily commute around the town.
 
Unless they get the charging times to something similar to filling up your gas tank, ie 3-5 minutes, most people will not buy a pure EV vehicle. The way to go for now is the PHEV hybrid. You get your 50-60 miles range for around town commutes, and should you decide to go on longer trips, you have no range anxiety as your gas motor is there, and you do not have to plan a trip based on where the chargers are located. A lot of folks have said that they encountered charging stations that were not functional during their EV road trips.
 
Yes right now plug in hybrid is the logical choice if your traveling however I also have an EV and unless your traveling outside of an hour or two - charging doesn’t come into play on the road.

Being able to plug the car in at night and it’s ready in the morning is a lot better than having to find a gas station IMO.
 
PHEV is way more complicated technologically than both ICE and EV. I would not recommend anyone buying PHEV, unless they are intending to change a car once the warranty is over. I seriously regret I made a mistake buying PHEV.

Also, you can forget 50-60 miles of electric range at winter, unless you live in area where you can wear t-shirt only at winter time. My P510e electric range is 50-60 miles at summer, but it drops to 30-40 miles at winter. I do not drive much, but even for me it's too small.
 
Initially, I was very apprehensive due to the perceived reliability. I ordered a 23 Range Rover SWB 6 cyl and other than routine maintenance, have had no issues, I considered to use a RR as a daily driver and bought a 24 Sport and likewise had no issues except routine maintenance. Honestly, I’ve had more problems, noise, rattles with my BMW X5 and Audi Q7 and Q8. My Audi A8 never got the adaptive cruise control fixed in my three years of lease ownership. All car manufacturers have issues with computer/software issues.
 
Yes right now plug in hybrid is the logical choice if your traveling however I also have an EV and unless your traveling outside of an hour or two - charging doesn’t come into play on the road.

Being able to plug the car in at night and it’s ready in the morning is a lot better than having to find a gas station IMO.
I agree that plugging in the car at night makes perfect sense. However, remember that today, there are a lot more gas stations than EV charging stations if you were using a pure EV while travelling beyond your EV range. EV's do serve their purpose if you keep your commutes within the vehicle's electric range.
 
The problem with EV is a range. For car like this 500-600 km of a range is a must, but I suspect there will only be something between 200 and 250 km of real range at summer and 120-160 km of real range at winter for RREV. I hope we'll get to know soon.
Another problem is weight. Those battery packs weigh a ton compared to an engine. Will affect the off road capabilities.
 
Another problem is weight. Those battery packs weigh a ton compared to an engine. Will affect the off road capabilities.
I would be interested in seeing an off-road test and comparison between the P550e and the regular ICE Range Rover. The PHEV weighs around 700 lbs. more than the regular ICE model. I doubt this kind of additional weight would have a significant difference in the off-road performance. Remember most off-road enthusiasts pack their vehicles with extras that will often exceed the weight difference. LR is about to launch their fully electric Range Rover, and I am curious to see how it will behave off-road. LR claims it will be as capable as the regular Range Rover.
 
I think it would depend on the application

I’m no engineer or even know about geometry but if my ford lightning is a comparison vs …say a tremor or raptor -

Your center of gravity would be really good through the middle/ back but incredibly light up front. I think anything over a certain ascent grade would not be great but I could be wrong on this.

I personally think my ford lightning is the best vehicle I have had in gravel / mud / small rocks and the lack of transmission and all the time 4wd makes it seamless. My front end is also very light so they can only make suspension lifts on the lightning about 2” without compromising ergonomics of the front end where the weight of an engine allow the ICE trucks to have bigger / beefier lifts ect.

So that’s why I think an EV Range Rover would do very well in an off road setting until it gets to a very steep incline. That being said some RR engineer can prove me wrong. I’m ok with that and hope they can because an EV Range Rover that has same/better capabilities off road is fine by me. A rivian can wade water at 43”- about 8” more then the RR- so I would expect an EV Range Rover to be a lot better at wading through water.
 
Another problem is weight. Those battery packs weigh a ton compared to an engine. Will affect the off road capabilities.
It's hard to comment off road capabilities for me, I only buy RR for looks, size, interior and 4WD (we have real winters here with a lot of ice). 🤷‍♂️ I don't like the idea of getting even tiny scratch on this car, or any amount of dirt inside, so If I would intend to go off road, I'd buy Defender probably.
 
It's hard to comment off road capabilities for me, I only buy RR for looks, size, interior and 4WD (we have real winters here with a lot of ice). 🤷‍♂️ I don't like the idea of getting even tiny scratch on this car, or any amount of dirt inside, so If I would intend to go off road, I'd buy Defender probably.
We off-road ours plenty. Not crazy but significant dirt roads, sometime muddy, small streams, medium size rock beds and lots of road trips etc. That’s why we love the rover—so capable.
 
what wheel size do you have and how it has held up during off-roading?
On our 2016 believe it or not it was the 22 inch rims. Surprisingly did well but did get scratched up. That’s why with our new 2024 I decided to stay with the standard 21 inch. serious off-roading though you gotta get different sizes like 18 to 19 inch.
 
We off-road ours plenty. Not crazy but significant dirt roads, sometime muddy, small streams, medium size rock beds and lots of road trips etc. That’s why we love the rover—so capable.
This is pretty much what I want to do with ours. Except perhaps the rock beds. I’ve chose the 22 inch just because the default 21s don’t look good.
 
This is pretty much what I want to do with ours. Except perhaps the rock beds. I’ve chose the 22 inch just because the default 21s don’t look good.
To each their own obviously. We have a Batumi gold with shadow pack and standard 21 inch wheels and I think they look fantastic. Added benefit of course is better for off road, smoothest ride compared to bigger wheeled and more importantly, less chance my wife will curb them over and over 🤣
 
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To each their own obviously. We have a Batumi gold with shadow pack and standard 21 inch wheels and I think they look fantastic. Added benefit of course is better for off road, smoothest ride compared to bigger wheeled and more importantly, less chance my wife will curb them over and over 🤣
Nice! I plan to get the 21” but powder coat them black. I want max comfort over bumps and pot holes
 
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