[eirik34]

Yesterday I tried to install the genuine deployable steps I purchased from a UK dealer; motors, steps, control module and under-shield parts, bolts and clips etc - all genuine LR parts. Quite more expensive than aftermarket parts, but my thinking was that a USD 200k vehicle should get genuine steps that is fully integrated with the PiviPro system, incl the "Side Steps" icon on the screen where one can force the steps to stay extracted (Roof access mode), and disable them if needed.

Even though the Gap IID tool currently doesn't provide the CCF files needed (ref this post) to install the Running Board Control Module, I still wanted to install the steps yesterday. My expectation was that the steps still should extract/retract when the doors were opened and closed - similar to how the aftermarked steps works. How wrong could I be!

The genuine step motors don't activate when the doors open/close if you haven't already software-installed the control module!! Therefore I haven't been able to do the fixing of the steps to the brackets - I have to wait with the final installation (fixing of the steps to the brackets, mount he under-shields etc) to when the "Roof access" is enabled in the PiviPro menu.

Just for information to others that consider installing genuine Range Rover deployable steps: You need to successfully install the control module using a "JLR approved diagnostic equipment" before you start installing the steps hardware!

 

[pcc125]

Thanks for sharing your experience. You definitely embarked on a difficult and complicated task. Your dealer should be able to help you with programming the control module. Good luck and keep us posted with the final outcome.

 

[Miglior]

It sounds like you’ve have the exact same weekend as me mate. I’ve got a brand new discovery and bought all the genuine gear to do the retrofit myself too. I work with cars and always have, stuff like this doesn’t phase me, been doing it 20 years. I also have a gap diagnostics IID tool which up to now has been no help. Apparently they’re trying to find an ecu flash for the module for me but it’s been 4/5 days where the car has been half stripped down Can’t carry on and finish the install until I get them working 🤣😢

 

[eirik34]

Apparently they’re trying to find an ecu flash for the module for me but it’s been 4/5 days where the car has been half stripped down Can’t carry on and finish the install until I get them working 🤣😢

Exactly like me - the Gap engineering team is working on finding a resolution for our car as well. Seems that the IID tool should work for 2023 and earlier L460s.

Just a reflection why Gap might experience these issues now: Gap responded with this info to me: "This one will require some time as we do not have the file due to the new topix cloud situation." The ones of us that are using an Energy provider with "Smart charging capabilities" (where the vehicle is charged during the hours with the lowest rates) have experienced that smart-charging of Land Rover cars isn't working anymore. I guess that the Energy providers have lost their previous JLR InControl API access, maybe due to that JLR is trying to combat increased thefts of their vehicles?

 

[Miglior]

do you have the part number and ECU information of the side step module you have? Patrick sent me a flash file last week but it failed on upload

 

[eirik34]

Hi Miglior, I also got an email from Patrick just now where he stated that it is the ECU flash that is the problem, not the CCF. The part number of our Running Board Control Module is: M8EM-14G094-AJ. Produced 20240606.

 

[Miglior]

mines similar, M8EM-14G094-AG - 2023 05 02. im not having much luck with this, ive not even been told that really. this is my first time using IID (I use lots of other brands diagnostics and I never had this kind of issue or wait) not sure if its a typical scenario from gap diagnostics, im hoping not. my car is in bits still (brand new car, not driven it yet, 30km on the clock) and I cant even rebuild it and finish the install off. very frustrating

 

[eirik34]

I ended up just mounting the brackets preliminary (appr. 20Nm), finishing step 44 in the topix document (+ step 49 and 50), and fixed the front brackets in retracted mode using cable ties. And today I mounted the under-shields back on (step 60+61 in the topix document) so that we can use the car while waiting for the ECU flash fix from Gap. If Gap cannot sort this out, I have to get the local dealer to use their JLR approved diagnostic tool to install the control module (ref this topix document). But I think Gap will manage to fix this eventually; I used a G2 version of their IID tool with our previous L322 - very happy with the Gap tool!

 

[Miglior]

I got a new flash file to try a few hours ago. I’ll try it and report back asap. Hopefully you got that same one too?

 

[eirik34]

Hi Miglior, no - haven't got a new flash file from Patrick. I guess they want you - as being the first one to request this - to verify it before sharing with others. Cross our fingers that it works!

 

[Miglior]

So the file works perfectly, make sure your ccf file is appropriate to your model first before flashing. My steps are working perfectly now thank god!

 

[eirik34]

Very good news, Miglior! Looking forward to use this new flash file as well!

 

[eirik34]

It works !

Had a lot of emails back and forth to Patrick at Gap last week due to that the flash didn't work - turned out to be a misunderstanding on my part... So now the Deployable Steps menu in PiviPro works! Tomorrow I'll mount the genuine steps to the brackets.

Very fortunate that we have LR dedicated experts at Gap Diagnostic- who also are very service oriented - to help us out with configuration and ECU issues in our Range Rovers!

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[homebuyer9102]

Hi Erik, could you please share the steps you tried to make this work? I’m new to using Gap. If there are any generic demo videos you can refer me would be very much appreciated! 😊

 

[eirik34]

Hi homebuyer, I tried to find how-to videos myself, but there aren't any such currently. You can find all part numbers etc in this topix document. That document is also the guide on how to install the steps. Actually quite easy - a lot easier than mounting deployable steps on the L322 (which I did back in 2015).

 

[homebuyer9102]

Thanks for the Response! I got the side steps installation part. I'm struggling with adding it to PiviPro using IIDTool BT G4. Haven't used a diagnostic tool before. Any steps that you followed to add it to menu on PiviPro?

 

[eirik34]

if you have the genuine steps (incl the genuine control module), you should look at Gap's FAQ page, use your IID tool to get the list of all the ECU installed, send this to Gap (link), and let them create a flash file and suggest the CCF changes for your vehicle. (I misunderstood a message from them and didn't follow the FAQ, which I should have used...). They are very supportive !

 

[Eli1984]

Could anyone please share CCF and ecu flash o have a 2024 LWB SV

 

[tonypjr]

Yesterday I tried to install the genuine deployable steps I purchased from a UK dealer; motors, steps, control module and under-shield parts, bolts and clips etc - all genuine LR parts. Quite more expensive than aftermarket parts, but my thinking was that a USD 200k vehicle should get genuine steps that is fully integrated with the PiviPro system, incl the "Side Steps" icon on the screen where one can force the steps to stay extracted (Roof access mode), and disable them if needed.

Even though the Gap IID tool currently doesn't provide the CCF files needed (ref this post) to install the Running Board Control Module, I still wanted to install the steps yesterday. My expectation was that the steps still should extract/retract when the doors were opened and closed - similar to how the aftermarked steps works. How wrong could I be!

The genuine step motors don't activate when the doors open/close if you haven't already software-installed the control module!! Therefore I haven't been able to do the fixing of the steps to the brackets - I have to wait with the final installation (fixing of the steps to the brackets, mount he under-shields etc) to when the "Roof access" is enabled in the PiviPro menu.

Just for information to others that consider installing genuine Range Rover deployable steps: You need to successfully install the control module using a "JLR approved diagnostic equipment" before you start installing the steps hardware!

Uff, wish you would of posted you were intending on installing them in the near future. I would of told you that you need to program the module first. If not, whatever position the motors are during installation is where they will stay at until properly coded to the bcm. We learn new things everyday, this being one of the not so fun ones. I went through this on my 2019 Range Rover.

 

[Eli1984]

Finally fitted and working the steps I had issue with: 1. Ecu flash file specific to car engineers at gap provided the same. 2. CCF once installation is complete it’s 505 on the list and you have to toggle it to fitted. Now working beautifully on both my standard and long wheelbase. For LWB JACKING POINTS need to move.