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Can anyone help please?

1.7K views 9 replies 5 participants last post by  Rick-the-Pick  
#1 ·
2000, P38 4.0 HSE LPG Convereted.
Owned 9 months no issues. This morning the Engine warning light flashed on a couple of times for a millisecond and I felt car loose power very briefly. Tonight however when driving home, warning light came on, lost power immediately and ground to a halt? Tried turning over a few times but wouldn't fire up, while waiting for AA, tried again and she fired up and I drove home. 3 Hours later went back out to RR but wont start, turning over fine but wont fire up, engine warning light still on. (It's possibly meant to be on until it fires up)?

Any ideas on what to check?

Tried searching the forum but nothing obvious?

Thanks for any help.
 
#6 ·
Sorry.

I have the information for the management system on the 1994-1999 model which is called GEMS which is a Lucas based system put together by David Williams at Land Rover. You have the Bosch/Thor/Motronic system that BMW put on the car when they started messing with things. It's a system which is better in terms of reduced emissions and diagnostic capability. As I have only the info for GEMS, I can't say for sure it's the same as the management system on your 2000 model year.

You ideally need to get the car plugged into a diagnostic computer such as Testbook(T4) which the dealer has, Autologic which your local LR independent probably has or something called Rovacom. This will tell you within minutes what the issue is.

If you can't do this, find a OBDII reader. This pluggs into the diagnostics port which should be located under the glove compartment, where your passenger puts their feet. It should read any fault code (Diagnostic Trouble Code - DTC or P-Code). Codes typically start Pxxxx, where xxxx is a number. Here is the link to the codes for translation once you have read them off the car via the reader.
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=29550

These are for the GEMS (1994-1999) managemetn system, but the Motronic should be very similar.

Shout if any of this is alien. :?
 
#7 ·
Many thanks Richard, your reply clear and concise. Unfortunately I don't have an OBDII reader. Will either have to get a reader or find a way to get RR to garage! Given I need to use RR tomorrow morning if possible to get to work, any obvious series of checks I can do this evening?
 
#8 ·
Not without diagnostic equipment. I wouldn't want to take a risk changing the Crankshaft Sensor, only to find it wasn't the problem. Maybe one of the workshop guys like Rick-The-Pick, Allyv8 or Chas could expand the options.

The Crankshaft sensor information I have for GEMS is here. Maybe a garage could use it to varify the issue:
 

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#9 ·
Sounds like a sensor problem. I had a simular situation when my engine temperature sensor went awol, it would be a pig to start and when it did there was an almighty stink of petrol, the ecu thought the engine was cold when it was hot starting and was fuelling for that condition. Like Rich has said diagnostics are your best bet rather than throw parts at it and hope to find the culprit.
 
#10 ·
There's so many areas to look at that could cause that fault.

You really need to get it plugged in & some fault codes or live data read so at least you know what area to concentrate on.

Other than that, you'll need to be very lucky to find the problem without spending big bucks.