[Lev]

My first two cars were Peugeot 204. Loved it! Full reclining front seats...

That matters. Till you buy your first LWB and can enjoy a full advantage of back seats.

 

[pcc125]

EV's are great for daily commutes where one can plug it in at home. I personally do not like public charging stations, and I would most definitely not plan any trip with an EV where I have to stop and let my car charge. I have heard and read too many stories where public charging stations were down, with owners having to tow their vehicles to a working public charging station. Perhaps fast charging technology will evolve, and you can charge your car as fast as filling up your gas tank. That is the time I will personally consider a full EV vehicle.
EV are smoother and quicker than most ICE vehicles. My P550e with its 50 miles range serves me well for my daily commutes. I have a charger at home and one at work, and I can take long trips in the P550e and not worry about public charging stations.

 

[eirik34]

JLR has just released a longer film from the test of the EV in Dubai: Link
A picture from that can indicate 340 miles (550km) range if we assume that the indicator shows 55% remaining battery:

 

[Lev]

187/55*100=340 miles (547 km).

Range increases from normal when it's hot (UAE). So that would probably my rather imaginary 300 miles (max 240 real life miles, max 150 winter miles). That's more or less 3x more than RR PHEVs are delivering. And we were all expecting battery to be 3x larger. So no magic. More or less 3x of RR PHEV range. Good for city, no use for longer trips.

But if they made some magic with battery capacity or weight and surprise us with a really good range - it would be great. 😉

 

[bluestraveller]

JLR is one of the few companies that hasn't lied about their battery range on the plug-in hybrids. If they can do a ~400 mile EV, that will be fantastic. Lucid Gravity is promising that sort of range (and the Lucid Air real world mileage more or less matches their advertisement), so this is definitely possible. The key is to get ~3.5 Miles per KHW with efficient drive motors, aggressive regen, drag optimization etc.

Any info on charging rate and charging profile?

 

[Lev]

Well, they do lie. They claim my P510e has 113 km of EV range. It's a big lie. Maximum I can get (when it's hot outside, relaxed driving, no passengers, empty trunk) is 85 km. That's 25% less then they say.

Also calculation gives 340 miles, why 400 mile number even appeared here?

 

[bluestraveller]

Fair point on range. Here is the relevant grab from the video, assuming that 55% battery remains the range is 340. That is not very exciting.

On the subject of truth: I'm routinely getting 50-52 miles with a fully charged battery in city driving and based on the forum feedback several others are also seeing an actual 50 miles of range on the 550e. That's pretty honest as far as EVs go.

There's a Car and Driver article on real world range vs promised range of EVs and it shows that only BMW and the Porsche Taycan/Audi Etron GT had more actual range (the VAG cars because they had a 2 speed gearbox and shifted to a higher gear at highway speeds). Biggest liars? Tesla and Rivian - no surprise here. Lucid, Audi were close to their promised range. It's an interesting article.

 

[newtorr]

I wonder how efficient RR ev would be. The PHEV is horrible in terms of efficiency. It gets good Ev mileage because of the massive battery, not because it is efficient

 

[eirik34]

Also calculation gives 340 miles, why 400 mile number even appeared here?

My fault, a little too quick in my calculation in my previous post (edited). 340 miles range according to the video.

But the EV should be more efficient than the PHEV, mainly due to a more efficient drivetrain (avoid ev motor driving gearbox etc).

 

[Lev]

Let's hope, but it's way too heavy to be efficient. I would not rely on battery being bigger than 120kW. And it will lead us...approximately....nearly....no more than....nowhere 🤷‍♂️

Just another city toy

 

[Hodog16]

I think 340 miles would be excellent for an EV the size and weight of the Range Rover. I know EV buyers love range but if you are driving more than 340 miles straight on a regular basis then an EV is not the right vehicle to get currently.

 

[Oafy44]

340 going 70-75 on highway is great

250-275 at 75 or below 40’F not the best

 

[pcc125]

Not withstanding the taxation issue mainly in Europe, and taking into account the depreciation rate of EV vehicles in general, does it really make sense to buy a pure EV versus leasing one?

 

[Hodog16]

In the US it makes sense to lease an EV to get the $7500 regardless of income, price of car, or country of origin. Also it protects one from the uncertain but vast depreciation for EVs. The lease residual value for my $105k sticker iX is $55,000, a value which was reached during the first year of leasing.

I would never purchase an EV but I bet a Range Rover EV lease will easily be $2500 plus a month and that’s nuts to me. I think the electric G580 leases for over $3000 a month.

 

[newtorr]

In the US it makes sense to lease an EV to get the $7500 regardless of income, price of car, or country of origin. Also it protects one from the uncertain but vast depreciation for EVs. The lease residual value for my $105k sticker iX is $55,000, a value which was reached during the first year of leasing.

I would never purchase an EV but I bet a Range Rover EV lease will easily be $2500 plus a month and that’s nuts to me. I think the electric G580 leases for over $3000 a month.

Yea for sure RR ev lease will be around 2500 which is why I am curious how many they will sell in the US

 

[MortenH]

JLR has just released a longer film from the test of the EV in Dubai: Link
A picture from that can indicate 340 miles (550km) range if we assume that the indicator shows 55% remaining battery:
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Looks fantastic, look forward to testdriving it. Have a Range Rover Electric on pre-order - if any good, I will buy one, if not, it will be a Mercedes G580 EQ.

 

[bluestraveller]

EV's are great for daily commutes where one can plug it in at home. I personally do not like public charging stations, and I would most definitely not plan any trip with an EV where I have to stop and let my car charge. I have heard and read too many stories where public charging stations were down, with owners having to tow their vehicles to a working public charging station. Perhaps fast charging technology will evolve, and you can charge your car as fast as filling up your gas tank. That is the time I will personally consider a full EV vehicle.
EV are smoother and quicker than most ICE vehicles. My P550e with its 50 miles range serves me well for my daily commutes. I have a charger at home and one at work, and I can take long trips in the P550e and not worry about public charging stations.

This is exactly why I switched back from an EV to a plug in hybrid. The limited range and lack of charging stations made my EV suitable only for in-town driving.

J1772 public charging Infrastructure sucks. There’s very few, many don’t work, there’s a mishmash of payment systems, and in the end the cost of electricity is essentially the same or more as buying gas.

 

[Lev]

Yes, unless you charge at home it's same price as gas or more expensive. Why all this PITA?

 

[oldguy]

Yes, unless you charge at home it's same price as gas or more expensive. Why all this PITA?

You also missed out the time to charge the batteries which is way longer than going from empty to full in the petrol/gas Range Rover

 

[Royalist]

Looks fantastic, look forward to testdriving it. Have a Range Rover Electric on pre-order - if any good, I will buy one, if not, it will be a Mercedes G580 EQ.

Love your content, your YT video is one that made me want an RR Full-Size so bad.