That would be something but highly doubtful sounds more like a dealer scare tactic

 

The mad Nazionalsocialislamic government has imposed a Zero Emission Vehicle (ZEV) mandate in the UK, which sets targets for the percentage of new cars that manufacturers must sell as zero-emission vehicles, including electric vehicles. That is forcing manufacturers to produce less of the real cars & more of the Hybrid & Electric ones.

The mandate increases the required percentage annually, reaching 80% by 2030 and 100% by 2035 for cars.

 

LR will be launching the all-electric Range Rover in 2026, and it is very likely that this would limit the production numbers of ICE engines. I do not believe that LR will stop producing ICE engines across its lineup. New year models typically will launch early summer. If you want to wait and get a 26, just place an order with your dealer for one. Range Rover inventories are beginning to pile up at dealer lots across the US, and yes, dealers always prefer selling what is on their lots.

 

Is there a refresh scheduled for MY 2027 ?

 

If they will launch MY26 RR EV with same looks as now, it would be strange for them to refresh exterior for MY27. I think we should rather expect a very minor facelift for MY28-29.

 

The GM at my dealership thinks refresh will happen for 2028 model year. Just his guesstimate based on his experience with JLR

 

Yes, makes sense.

 

If there is going to be a refresh, I think it will be a very minor one -think modified headlights or bumpers. Land Rover is known to stick to their designs for a long time.

 

I think the Range Rover EV would be perfect for my purposes as a commuter but I don’t want anything to do with the depreciation curve as an owner. Also I expect it to lease horribly.

I have a deposit down to get the first 2026 allocation at the local dealer. They don’t expect any major changes but I didn’t ask about number of allocations. I get the sense that people aren’t beating down their doors for one any more.

I’ll probably end up ordering one but I’m still considering options.

 

I was thinking that too but they have to do something in the next year or two. Maybe increase in HP for all 3 (v8, i6 and PHEV) models.

 

TBH I don't think any of these lack HP.

 

Oh yeah, EV depreciation.

My Porsche dealer has a beautifully specced facelift 2024Taycan Turbo S for sale from their demo fleet. I test drove this car. Boy, it's fast (they claim 2.4s 0-100 km/h, and it's AT LEAST this fast, my latest 911 turbo S was 2.7 0-100 and this Taycan is significantly faster). It handles great, it stops great (huge PCCB brakes), it has a perfect leather interior and very nice color exterior, it has a biggest possible battery and very good (summer, relaxed driving) range. It doesn't have Burmeister, just Bose and it doesn't have massage seats, but I would tolerate that if discount would be good enough.

The car is 8 months old, MSRP is 245K EUR, 17.000 km on the clock. They are trying to sell it for 185K EUR now. It's a massive discount, but it's mission impossible for them to sell it for this price IMHO. My hands are itching to make them a 170K offer and buy it just because it's so great. But I just know it's price will keep falling fast as a stone. It will cost 100K EUR 3 years from now. And I barely drive cars I already have. Still I would buy it just because it's faster than any car I ever had. But I just hate the idea of depreciation being so crazy.

 

EV depreciation is terrible. Took a haircut on my Audi ETron after 3 years and 15,000 miles of driving. The VAG EVs simply don’t have enough range to be useful for anything more than in town driving.

 

Thanks, I'm fine, it's just another car. I had some s#itty cars before (Peugeot 205 i had in early 90s was as unreliable as RR PHEV), no drama.

 

lol I have good memories/experience from Peugeot 206

 

P400 is perfectly fine, don’t second guess it at all. That’s the engine I’m planning on ordering.

 

You cannot go wrong with the P400, it is a great engine! I would personally stay away from the BMW sourced V8's as there has been a lot of issues with those engines. The HP on the P400 is nothing to sneeze at, and the HP on the P550e is an amazing 550hp with an electric range of 50 miles. The P550e has the P400 engine, and it works great on a car this size with the extra weight of the batteries on the 550e.
@Lev the Taycan is a great car, but I would wait and perhaps offer the dealer 140k EUR. You can always go up in price but never easy to go down. I am sure they are eager to sell it, so time is to your advantage. In the US, you can now buy a 2-3 years old Taycan for around 50-60k USD. They drop in value like nothing else due to the fact they are pure EV's.

 

Yep, it's also 50-60k EUR here, but Turbo S is rather 100k. But all of them keep dropping.

To this particular car - you're 100% right. That's exactly what I'm doing now - waiting and watching. Maybe later when they drop the price 2-3 more times I will make my offer.

 

So, got some weird reply from an SA here in Virginia about the 2026 year models... something about how they were told that production for gas models was going to be limited by the all-electric coming out, and there would be far fewer gas model full-sized range rovers allotted for all dealerships 2026.

I have no interest in an all-electric model (we have one EV and while it's great around town, it's a PITA for road trips), and the whole thing came off as a bit "you should buy this car here at the dealership right now because there might not be another one coming!" fear-based sell tactic.

That being said, has anyone heard about the 2026 model year and when it might debut, or if there is any truth in what they told me?

My dealer told me that there is no model year refresh for 2026. He said the big thing will be the sales of the pure ev which will only be a five seater due to the large battery pack.

 

Does he have any insights about RR EV official premiere time? Spring-Summer 2025?

 

Spring or summer will be the launch of the EV RR as a 2026 model.

 

All EVs are like this.

 

The latest UK WhatCar Magazine has a blurb on the RR EV. It will be available in the UK late this year. No

 

from my dealer - most likely deliveries in 2026. Maybe refresh announced 2027 deliveries for MY 2028

 

I hope the ev model is an addition to their production capacity and doesn’t takeaway from the gas model. Not sure how many rich EV aficionados are out there who would take a $150k-200k ev RR over a proper V8 or V6 ICE. With high likelihood of US ev incentives going away, not sure how many they will sell. Even PHEVs my GM tells me are harder to move than V6 and V8s

 

Not to talk down to anyone but one of my cars is a lightning f150 I have a Range Rover and an f350 Diesel.

EV’s for the most part - not all but most are pretty plain and cheap on the inside. I would personally love Land Rover to keep the elegant / bespoke interiors while matching an EV platform.

Our brakes will probably last 50k or longer with 1 pedal - regenerative braking. Evs have roughly 40% less parts - amazing but smooth acceleration. If they can get anywhere near 400 miles per charge then I think it will be a home run. Around 300 miles per charge you will have some people hold out- especially in the colder /more rural areas, but my guess is most people on here don’t travel more then 200 miles a day with their Range Rover

I have a Tesla adapter that Ford made and sent that allows me to use any of their superchargers . Range anxiety is real but once you get used to it and realize how many chargers there actually are around you - it eventually subsides.

 

The best way to get an EV is to lease one instead of purchasing it. Anyone here who owned a pure EV vehicle ever replaced a battery? We are getting close to the time when these EV batteries will need replacement. I wonder about the cost of such...I am guessing $10k to $20k to replace batteries depending on size.

 

But this is a Range Rover so $20K seems cheep, considering the palava for changing a battery in the current Range Rover Sport where I read you have to remove a seat to get to it

 

Yep leasing loophole is wonderful and essentially every vehicle qualifies due to it being classified as a commercial vehicle by congress.

 

And if you dish out the money to replace a battery, does it justify the money you save on gas?

 

for a vehicle of this price point, I don’t think saving $200/mo on gas is the reason one would choose ev over ICE but I get your point

 

3 main reasons to buy an expensive EV (depending on country):

1. silky smoothness of ride (RR PHEV rides noticeably smoother and "elastic" in EV mode than in ICE mode, with waaay less vibration and noise).
2. tax
3. acceleration (not applicable in this case, as this car will not be as fast as Tesla Plaid or Taycan Turbo S/GT)

Saving on gas is not something relevant for cars like this.

 

In Belgium it is a pure taxation decision - from a company car perspective for an ev i think the benefit in kind tax is reduced by around 90-100 percent (the rules change regularly so I am
not 100 percent sure) whereas PHEV you have something like a 60 percent BIK reduction, with very little to no BIK reduction for ICE. Similarly for vehicle registration and road taxes for a RR you are looking at something like 5 to 10K or more in year one for ICE, zero for EV and something in between for PHEV if I remember well, maybe the rules have already changed again for this year making PHEV more like ICE. I have to do a calculation but maybe PHEV taxes can be offset by it being cheaper than the EV car. I don’t think I would go back to an ICE because I have solar panels which make my PHEV essentially free to charge for six months of the year for all commuting , normal drives and it acts as an extra storage for electricity when the sun in really long sunny days when my home battery gets full. This is a consideration as we are starting to get charged for sending power to the grid for solar over production.

In an ideal world I would simply get a 3.0l diesel engine but this is simply unacceptable in europe to most governments for better or worse.

 

We've also got car taxation like this in Estonia from this year. EV is cheapest, PHEV a bit worse but still no drama, ICE is taxed heavily. Both registration and yearly taxes.

 

EV's are great for daily commutes where one can plug it in at home. I personally do not like public charging stations, and I would most definitely not plan any trip with an EV where I have to stop and let my car charge. I have heard and read too many stories where public charging stations were down, with owners having to tow their vehicles to a working public charging station. Perhaps fast charging technology will evolve, and you can charge your car as fast as filling up your gas tank. That is the time I will personally consider a full EV vehicle.
EV are smoother and quicker than most ICE vehicles. My P550e with its 50 miles range serves me well for my daily commutes. I have a charger at home and one at work, and I can take long trips in the P550e and not worry about public charging stations.

 

EV's are great for daily commutes where one can plug it in at home. I personally do not like public charging stations, and I would most definitely not plan any trip with an EV where I have to stop and let my car charge. I have heard and read too many stories where public charging stations were down, with owners having to tow their vehicles to a working public charging station. Perhaps fast charging technology will evolve, and you can charge your car as fast as filling up your gas tank. That is the time I will personally consider a full EV vehicle.
EV are smoother and quicker than most ICE vehicles. My P550e with its 50 miles range serves me well for my daily commutes. I have a charger at home and one at work, and I can take long trips in the P550e and not worry about public charging stations.

This is exactly why I switched back from an EV to a plug in hybrid. The limited range and lack of charging stations made my EV suitable only for in-town driving.

J1772 public charging Infrastructure sucks. There’s very few, many don’t work, there’s a mishmash of payment systems, and in the end the cost of electricity is essentially the same or more as buying gas.

 

JLR has just released a longer film from the test of the EV in Dubai: Link
A picture from that can indicate 340 miles (550km) range if we assume that the indicator shows 55% remaining battery:

 

Looks fantastic, look forward to testdriving it. Have a Range Rover Electric on pre-order - if any good, I will buy one, if not, it will be a Mercedes G580 EQ.