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Anyone know who might be the OEMs of LR041108 / LR041110 if the label on the struts says "Made in GB"?

I just received a set of air struts I ordered from Atlantic British (roverparts.com), a very reputable source. I paid extra because it is "OEM by Delphi". When it arrived, it didn't have a Delphi brand on it or any brand for that matter. I talked to their sales rep, they said their supplier changed recently but don't know who the manufacturer is. So now, I'm wondering if it's worthwhile to keep these unbranded OEMs and just trust that if it's Made in GB it should be solid...or spend half the money on an OEM part from lrdirect.com.

Here's the info / part number / COO on my struts:
  • Front: 22275447A, LR041108G, MADE IN GB
  • Rear: 22275449A, LR041110G, MADE IN GB
Also, the "Made in GB" label doesn't exactly look fantastic either...I wouldn't trust that label myself if it didn't come from Atlantic British. But I digress...


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I've never seen ANYTHING marked Made In GB, made in UK or made in EU maybe but not GB. With a poorly printed sticker that isn't even on straight, my guess would be most likely made in China or India.
 

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I, also, had ordered LCAs "made by OE" from AB and they came without any kind of label or identification at all. I returned them.
 

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Thanks guys. Yeah I am returning them as well. Ordered a set of OE struts for half the price from LR Direct, and that's including $160 shipping. I'll share a pic of what those look like when they arrive.

If I bought these air struts from eBay I definitely would have called BS on the "Made in GB" label. I think I was being hopeful since I bought these from Atlantic British...
 

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Those will probably look exactly the same as the ones you've got from AB just for a lot less money :)
When doing the front ones, I ordered them from Arnott originally and waited for nearly 2 month for back order and then gave up. I would buy rears from Arnott as well but they stopped selling directly and want $700+ each (I need them for 2013 RRS with ACE)
so kinda expensive given that there are $500 alternatives... Most likely will order from LRDirect again.
 

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From what I can see you get ripped off in the States for parts which can be had much cheaper (and in many cases, better quality) buying from LRDirect, Island 4x4 or Rimmerbros in the UK. All will ship to the US. For odd things from suppliers that won't ship to the US, people have bought them but had them sent to me in the UK, I've then forwarded them on. I've received and sent on 3 Direnza P38 alloy radiators and even with the shipping they still came out at half the price of an equivalent 'custom' job from the US.
 

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I would ask your Atlantic British sales rep. The Dunlop units are made in the uk - I had my indie install then so I didn’t look at the unit closely (outer packaging said made in uK - or perhaps it was gb - but I didn’t pay that much attention) Not sure where the Delphi’s would be made ....Happy with the Dunlop’s so far - sport rides like new again
 

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Thanks guys. Yeah I am returning them as well. Ordered a set of OE struts for half the price from LR Direct, and that's including $160 shipping. I'll share a pic of what those look like when they arrive.

If I bought these air struts from eBay I definitely would have called BS on the "Made in GB" label. I think I was being hopeful since I bought these from Atlantic British...
Ha! I was pocking around and there is an Airstrut offered by Allmakes4x4 that they sell as their premium replacement part and it has that "made in GB" label on it. They dont advertise as OE or OE quality but do state that this item was sold in last 8 years with nearly zero returns, none in past 12 month (would be more convincing if stated how many were sold in last 12 month). So I guess it is safe to assume that AB guys sold you Allmakes airstrut... I would find it hard to believe that Allmakes guys have a manufacturing line, like Arnott for example, probably have these manufactured to their specs in China I guess. I dont know... Do Brits really label their products "made in GB"??? Or it is likely common mistake for far-far away foreigner to lay it out like that?
 

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Ha! I was pocking around and there is an Airstrut offered by Allmakes4x4 that they sell as their premium replacement part and it has that "made in GB" label on it. They dont advertise as OE or OE quality but do state that this item was sold in last 8 years with nearly zero returns, none in past 12 month (would be more convincing if stated how many were sold in last 12 month). So I guess it is safe to assume that AB guys sold you Allmakes airstrut... I would find it hard to believe that Allmakes guys have a manufacturing line, like Arnott for example, probably have these manufactured to their specs in China I guess. I dont know... Do Brits really label their products "made in GB"??? Or it is likely common mistake for far-far away foreigner to lay it out like that?
Good to know. Thanks for the info man!

I really wish reputable suppliers can make the Country of Origin a lot more clear, for both Genuine and OEMs and OEM replacements actually. Nothing wrong with offering Made in China parts at a lower price, and nothing wrong with offering Made in UK / GB / EU parts at a higher price. To each their own. Just tell us who the manufacturer is, what country it is made in, and we as consumers can do our own research and make our decision. That way we know what we're getting. The fact that even AB doesn't know who the manufacturer is for the air struts I got just tells you how foggy the supply chain is.
 

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I dont think that AB guys dont know. They do not want to say because then what stops you from going to allmakes website and just order directly. I guess as they say: nothing personal, just business.
 

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It’s probably refurb. Oem air struts is not made in GB unfortunately. It is actually made by Delphi now named BWI which is a Chinese company. My 2013 L320 all oem with 16k miles only has oem parts and to my surprise the air struts is made by BWI, same as my 2015i Escalade platinum.
 

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An update as promised. The new struts from LR Direct came in. No stickers of any sort.

Quality, from a visual perspective, as far as I can tell is the same. Meaning, it doesn't LOOK better or worse. Only two things will tell: 1) installation experience (will start next week), and 2) how long it lasts.

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Sblvro I think days when refubished product was sold offered as new are long time over. Not 100% guarantee but buying these from reputable, major LR parts seller, is very likely to get a new, not refurb part.
I, personally, think that in 5/2/2020 you're more likely to get a replica made in China but new rather refurb misrepresented as new.
LR Direct does not ask for core return, just think - if they dont, where will they get enough of used struts to refurb? RRS are not sold in high qty as toyota or VW, not likely they could possibly find enough airstruts to refurb without asking for cores, very very unlikely.
 

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Sblvro I think days when refubished product was sold offered as new are long time over. Not 100% guarantee but buying these from reputable, major LR parts seller, is very likely to get a new, not refurb part.
I, personally, think that in 5/2/2020 you're more likely to get a replica made in China but new rather refurb misrepresented as new.
LR Direct does not ask for core return, just think - if they dont, where will they get enough of used struts to refurb? RRS are not sold in high qty as toyota or VW, not likely they could possibly find enough airstruts to refurb without asking for cores, very very unlikely.
Why is there no label? How much did he pay for it? For airstruts my guess would be $400 per strut or more. If you bought it cheaper then you’ll ask if it’s real. My 2015i Escalade shocks are $500 a piece and they’re MRC but not air struts.
 

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Why no label is quiet bothersome for me as well. In my book any manufacturer proud of its product would put its stamp on it. I have bought and returned to AB control arms because they had no labels, only to order and receive same label less ones from LR Direct. Maybe all these guys have some kind of deal where they get label-less product wholesale deal to put their own labels on, to sell as private label, I dont know but this seems go around alot...
As far as your caddy parts cost so much - really not a measurment. Some time ago my coworker had an S-Class Coupe and we went over FCP Euro website and compared prices - part for my RRS VS same part for his MB S class, in most instances S-Class was 1.5-2 times more expensive. Does that automatically make all LR parts questionable? I'd out that.
 

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Why is there no label? How much did he pay for it? For airstruts my guess would be $400 per strut or more. If you bought it cheaper then you’ll ask if it’s real. My 2015i Escalade shocks are $500 a piece and they’re MRC but not air struts.
The first set I bought from AB that were supposed to be Delphi were $490 each for front, and $350 each for rear. The second set I bought from LR Direct were ~$195 each for front and back. As for how they compare, see the photos from my earlier messages. The two sets look identical, including the brushed marks that make the rear struts look used which I find interesting. The only thing different was that the set from AB had a poorly made and poorly placed "MADE IN GB" sticker that looks like it was created using a 3M label maker that my mom uses for organizing her craft supplies.
 
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