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'98 P38, we have RAVE and Faultmate and a manual Bypass system
a 2nd. hand Valve block has just been rebuilt completely including Solenoid Orings and Diaphragm
has a new Driver unit and Thermal switch
previous to V/block rebuild Height sensors were functioning okay as was everything else.
there are no fault codes showing and when first re-installed EAS was functioning normally with absolutely no leaks.
i'm positive the non-return valves were put back in correctly and no Orings moved.

the vehicle is stuck in extended mode and will not move either from in the cabin or with Faultmate. we can deflate the system with the manual bypass, but when the car is started he goes up like a stiff ...... :oops:
a few questions, could a blocked silencer cause this ?, is it possible to put the diaphragm in back to front ? could the problem be in the plug connections within the EAS box ?
i have still got the old Valve block with the old Thermal switch, which are okay, if we can't find a solution i'll change it over at the weekend as part of the problem solving process.

anybody got any suggestions ?

...........tasi
 

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Hey Tas,
Is it actually stuck in extended mode? As in the light is on and wont move to another setting? I had a similar problem but it would move around by itself or when selected, but if I left it sit for awhile switched off it would raise up in the air. The problem was something to do with the pump running for longer than it should and when the tank was full it would just start pumping up the bags as well. Unfortunately, I have no idea what caused it or why it magically stopped happening, but thought a bit more info might help.

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Keels if it was a bloke and in Intensive Care , they'd be iceing it down. :dance: :dance: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Nah it won't move, compressor, tank pressure okay , it's accepting new height values but not responding....looks TUFF tho, rampant you might say :oops:
Denis/Shupack has just responded to an e-mail i sent him with a coupla things to investigate, so it's lunchtime here and i'm heading down to my mates/mechanic to try them.....hopefully for a result.
will let you know.
aren't these beasts just wonderful :twisted:

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This isn't much help but, your title mad me laugh my a$$ off! :lol:
 

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lrscott....sometimes ya just gotta laugh at these things
doesn't look good for a grown man to be crying a lot
triede Shupacks suggestions ...no go. will now change back to old Valve block swapping over Driver and Pressure switch and see what happens.
hopefully success by elimination.

anyone gotta match :twisted:

EDIT: when i said Thermal switch previously i meant Pressure switch

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update for the EAS on Viagra;
changed back to the old Valve block, fixed it, everything fine no issues at all.
the Diaphragm i got with the re-build kit last year looked substantially thicker compared to the one it replaced.
i'm guessing it didn't have enough flex and wouldn't allow the system to vent, and because nothing was happening there was no fault code.

so it's no longer rampant, but goes up and down at the press of it's switch.

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Tasi.

Have you ever thought of something a bit more agricultural from down-under, such as matching the 'Firestone air bag system' with Rancho's in-cab shocky kits ?
I've thought about this for awhile since the aftermarket Poly-air bags are a popular Classic aftermarket option and allows adjust ability from a servo' air line hose.
If it was possible to simply "dial-in" any ride height characteristics with a much more easier process than continuously fixing EAS's than it would be more reliable !

By the way, what are your thoughts on my favourite AFL team The Hawks from Hawthorn re-locating to Tasmania - is there enough support for them or Richmond.
Brings a whole new look and feel to an AFL team calling them the "Tasi Devil's", since the local club team strip is the same and the Tigers colour scheme is similar.

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Tasi.

Have you ever thought of something a bit more agricultural from down-under, such as matching the 'Firestone air bag system' with Rancho's in-cab shocky kits ?
I've thought about this for awhile since the aftermarket Poly-air bags are a popular Classic aftermarket option and allows adjust ability from a servo' air line hose.
If it was possible to simply "dial-in" any ride height characteristics with a much more easier process than continuously fixing EAS's than it would be more reliable !

By the way, what are your thoughts on my favourite AFL team The Hawks from Hawthorn re-locating to Tasmania - is there enough support for them or Richmond.
Brings a whole new look and feel to an AFL team calling them the "Tasi Devil's", since the local club team strip is the same and the Tigers colour scheme is similar.

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Vinniman
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Perth, W.A.
Hey Vin, my being an Adelaide-Crows follower and particularly a Melbourne Storm supporter (yeh i know GReat life choices :lol: ), i'm not much fussed about the Hawks and even less so about the Tigers :p .
i will say tho having the Hawks here even just in the capacity they are at present has been a fantastic thing for AFL and Hawks followers, let alone our local economy.
the deal was, pre Hawks, that Aurora Stadium (Northern Tasmania) would be developed as the State centre for high level football and Bellrive (Southern Tasmania) for high level Cricket. so everyone gets a share.
Launceston is actually more central re travel and population density than Hobart, and so it has been very successful. now we find out there are moves afoot to dilute that success and use Bellrive/Richmond :evil: .typical bloody politicians :evil:

re the Goodyears - Rancho i'll do some Goggling and look into it

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Hey Guys,

I havn't looked into the airbags that you mentioned Vin, but I had thought long and hard (no pun intended re thread title) about the Rancho's. When looking for extended shocks to run for my car with the Gen III's and the spacers I was originally going to get Rancho RS9000 adjustables with the in car kit. There were a couple of problems, one of the main ones being finding the appropriate length shocks with an eye/stem set up. I managed to find a set that would be very close in size when used in conjunction with an eye to stem adaptor on the bottom, but the thing that put me off was the price. All up it was going to cost around $1500+ AUD for the full set up, ready to bolt in. This was too much for me considering the shaft size (no pun intended again) was what I considered too small. I then looked into Tough Dog shocks, as the adjustment point they use is exactly the same as the Ranchos, and you can use the Rancho in car kit with them. This was going to be around the same price all said and done, and Tough Dog aren't as liberal with there shock length specs as Rancho, which made it hard to find the correct lengths.

The shocks I have gone with are fairly new on the market and I have never run them (I have run both Ranchos and Tough Dogs in other cars) so I'm not sure how they will perform. They were a easy to size up, came in the correct configuration, and are 12 way adjustable, instead of 9 way, whick means unfortunately you cannot use the Rancho in car kit. They are also a darn sight cheaper than Ranchos and Tough Dogs, though I did get a special price.

I've just finished modifying the rear spacers and am awaiting a clear day to swap them in. Once they're swapped in I'll try these new shocks and let you know how they go. Untill then it's all very Secret Squirrel ;)

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Cheers Keels.

All 'Under Cover Brother' at the moment are we ? Or is that "Warn-a-Brother" when you see boys in blue pull over a Rangie with their new search and destroy rules !

I just got off the blower to Ben Brown from Air-bag Man in Bris-vegas and they still over their On-Air System to replace faulty OEM Dunlop airbags with Firestones, which if you think of it would simply allow a Tee piece connection to the air compressor or tank in your P38 or manually inflate Arnott rubber bellows at the servo' ?

I've used Doetsch-tech Progressive shocks with great success in Tojo's overseas & simply ordered a pair of Pin-2-Eye converters at Perth4x4 for the upper mounts.

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Vin, if you want to manually inflate the bellows, there are kits available from several places like Hard Range Australia, RovAir in WA, and AirBag Man themselves sell a kit to do this I think. It basically just gives you schrader valves for each bag and one for the tank. The one from RovAir also comes with a quick disconnect Nitto fitting to the tank so you can either pump up your tank with your home compressor or plug an air line in to fill your tyres/inflatable tent/blow up doll or what have you. These are designed so when your EAS fails, you can manually inflate them using servo air or a 12v compressor. So I'm guessing you could acheive what you are talking about with one of these kits and just disconnecting the EAS. But you'd just leave the EAS in untill it fails.

And yes, hiding from the 2c coins is high on my priority list :p I've already had a trip to the pits this year because of my "Ghetto Tint" as the officer put it. The less I have to deal with them, the better :) The other reason for the stealthyness is the better half is wondering where all our money is going, so I have to tell her I'm fixing the car, not modifying it :dance:

Cheers,
Keels.
 
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