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Took delivery on 3/5 of my 2010 HSE

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roverca14
So, I'll post some pix later as it is currently raining here in "sunny" California, not to mention you've seen a black/ebony RRS a Ga-zillion times already!

I will however share these thoughts/details;

I ordered a 21010 in Santorini Black, Ebony interior, Ivory contrast stitch, Angire wood, Sirius Radio, Style-7 wheels and the SC grill
(I had pre-ordered the Gibson tips as found here in another posting and installed them already - they look really good)

It arrived exactly as ordered EXCEPT minus the Supercharged Style-7 wheels and with HD Radio. My dealer was extremely apologetic and had already found (2) SC's in CA with those wheels - they said they would dealer trade to get them for me... I'm supposed to let them know Monday but after 16hrs of ownership I don't really mind the 20" wheels that come with the LUX package. So I'm thinking maybe I'll keep them for the first year or so then (if I really still "have" to have the Style-7 I can order or look for them on eBay).

While they were (allegedly) going to comp the wheels for being a good customer, instead they knocked $2,350 off the MSRP (the extra $350 was the HD radio price which I did not order or want). I think this was rather generous of them and feel it was more than fair (Please, If you think I got screwed don't tell me - I'll totally obsess over it!) :crybaby2:

As for my 16hr review;

In two words - Love it! I love my 2008 and had absolutely no complaints but I must say as subtle as the exterior changes may be, it's a completely different vehicle inside which is what I love most. The Bluetooth interface and on-screen controls (ala Jaguar XF) is a HUGE improvement and probably the most noticeable difference in terms of the Nav screen. That said I do have a few "disappointments" (even that word is too harsh);

• Single CD player. Yes, I know it's all about the iTouch & USB now but I was surprised it's only a single CD in-dash
• The new touch screen interface is much better and similar to my XF, but the XF system is WAY better with WAY more functions
• They still haven't figured out how to make the rear seat map-lights come on when the doors are opened
• The blue/red circle around the temperature controls should illuminate
• Steering wheel paddles should be standard on all models – even my wimpy Mini Cooper has them!

None of the above is anything that bothers me, just more observations. I think most people aren’t as OCD as me about these things.

Oh, one last thing: the dealer gave me the HSE grill (clearly they just ordered the SC one and installed it for me), but I actually like the finish on the HSE cross bars – it’s not the same as the old HSE grill and has a more “brushed” gun-metal finish, I think it’s rather sporty!
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Cheers,
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BWB RRS HSE
If your not an automotive journalist, you should be one....very observant remarks and on the spot with my ownership experience (where similar).
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The HD Radio will grow on you. I had no interest in it when I bought my Sport, but I really like it now. It sounds better than Sirius, and a lot of stations broadcast up to two separate digital channels that you can only receive on an HD radio. It really opens up a lot of choices.
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+1 on the HD Radio. I like it and now wish my other car had it too
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B
Actually $2350 off in the bay area is pretty good. I talked to 3 dealers in the bay area, only asking for 2k off -- one offered me $1200, another wouldn't say yes or no or give me a final price, and the other was playing games with the numbers and nothing added up right. So I had to go to LA to get $2k+ off the vehicle. I can and have paid MSRP for brand new models that have waiting lists... but no way on a vehicle like the Sport that is not a super high demand kind of car. And in a slumping auto market as well.

Anyway, I love mine as well! It's a fantastic vehicle and totally worth it.
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wow...cant believe cali dealers are still that tight with prices. With the 2011's coming out in a few months, and in this economy. My va dealer will knock 4k off any 2010 before you negotiate anything...

http://landroveralexandria.net/CouponView.asp?cid=60
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I LOVE land rover of alexandria! It is by far the best dealership I have ever been to in every way.
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roverca14
Maybe other Californian's can confirm this either way, but from what I've read and heard at dealers (mine and others) is that the 2010's are hard to come by. My dealer said the 2010 RR Sports are hard to get even for them and other dealers aren't willing to dealer trade. I also heard since Tata took over LR that they have reduced the dealer's profit margin (I think to 7%?).

I did ask about 2011's - I was told LR will switch to (calling them) MY2011 in July but there are no notable changes as LR considered 2010 it's "redesign" year.

Perhaps this is a CA phenomenon but if any other experts (Umbert?) have more details we all may benefit. :thumb:

Cheers,
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I went to two dealerships before I pulled the trigger. Both gave me the same story … Land Rover does not discount anymore … it’s not like it used to be … they have cut production by 50%. My sales guy told me he brought a deal to his manager for $600.00 off and got yelled at.

The day I knew my sales guy was off I went in to see the Sales Manager and ended up getting $7,840.00 off list (has every option but rear entertainment). I had a print out of his cost and it was a take it or leave it deal so there was nothing to negotiate.

The only stipulation was it had to be a factory order as he would not let his ‘limited stock’ go for that tight a deal which was fine with me.

If you go on autotrader.com there are US dealers with 20 in stock.

Here is the break down to give you an idea.

CANADIAN $ LIST COST

2010 Range Rover Supercharged 87,400.00 78,660.00
Freight 1,270.00 1,270.00

Optional equipment selected
GREEN LEVY (-GAS) 3,000.00 3,000.00

REAR SEAT ENTERTAINMENT PKG 2,750.00 2,448.00
EXTENDED LEATHER PKG 1,250.00 1,113.00
REAR DIFFERENTIAL LOCK (DIF) 650.00 579.00
20" 5 SPOKE ALLOY WHEELS - STYLE 7 1,200.00 1,068.00
ADAPTIVE CRUISE CONTROL (ADC) 800.00 2,492.00
SURROUND CAMERA SYSTEM 990.00 881.00
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maxwell said:
wow...cant believe cali dealers are still that tight with prices. With the 2011's coming out in a few months, and in this economy. My va dealer will knock 4k off any 2010 before you negotiate anything...

http://landroveralexandria.net/CouponView.asp?cid=60
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This is not my experience with LR Alexandria - and I'm a return customer!!! I got a better deal from Rosenthal Land Rover Vienna- Tysons Corner. I am a fan of Don Beyer when it comes to Volvo's but I didn't liked the RR sales people, their style or the deal they offered me. Regardless, the deals you get on the Supercharge are not as good as the deals you get on the HSE.
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Great review, but your avatar is a bit creepy.
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Hey Jet Pilot

where did you order your 2010? and how did you get the invoice pricing for CDN models?

I"m in Calgary, ready to order a 2011, like your deall

JetPilot said:
I went to two dealerships before I pulled the trigger. Both gave me the same story … Land Rover does not discount anymore … it’s not like it used to be … they have cut production by 50%. My sales guy told me he brought a deal to his manager for $600.00 off and got yelled at.

The day I knew my sales guy was off I went in to see the Sales Manager and ended up getting $7,840.00 off list (has every option but rear entertainment). I had a print out of his cost and it was a take it or leave it deal so there was nothing to negotiate.

The only stipulation was it had to be a factory order as he would not let his ‘limited stock’ go for that tight a deal which was fine with me.

If you go on autotrader.com there are US dealers with 20 in stock.

Here is the break down to give you an idea.

CANADIAN $ LIST COST

2010 Range Rover Supercharged 87,400.00 78,660.00
Freight 1,270.00 1,270.00

Optional equipment selected
GREEN LEVY (-GAS) 3,000.00 3,000.00

REAR SEAT ENTERTAINMENT PKG 2,750.00 2,448.00
EXTENDED LEATHER PKG 1,250.00 1,113.00
REAR DIFFERENTIAL LOCK (DIF) 650.00 579.00
20" 5 SPOKE ALLOY WHEELS - STYLE 7 1,200.00 1,068.00
ADAPTIVE CRUISE CONTROL (ADC) 800.00 2,492.00
SURROUND CAMERA SYSTEM 990.00 881.00
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Just a reminder. You never know, but I doubt the current financing deals will still be around in the fall when the 2011’s are out for those who are waiting for the next model year.

The following reflects the estimated total carrying costs on $60,000 financed in the event rates change.

Current deal (in Canada)
1.9% over 60 months: $2,942.57

Potential future rates
2.9% over 60 months: $4,527.43
3.9% over 60 months: $6,137.14
4.9% over 60 months: $7,771.63
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Never understood why people buy HSE's then spend money on Supercharged-like options.
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PJPR01
For the mileage of course!!!

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which one of these is a S/C only option:

REAR SEAT ENTERTAINMENT PKG 2,750.00 2,448.00
EXTENDED LEATHER PKG 1,250.00 1,113.00
REAR DIFFERENTIAL LOCK (DIF) 650.00 579.00
20" 5 SPOKE ALLOY WHEELS - STYLE 7 1,200.00 1,068.00
ADAPTIVE CRUISE CONTROL (ADC) 800.00 2,492.00
SURROUND CAMERA SYSTEM 990.00 881.00
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gooseyloosey
From today's release of the latest JD Power. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a6vimtbt2YqQ

"Tata Motors Ltd.’s Land Rover had 255 problems per 100 vehicles, the worst score in the study." :doh:

Maybe you guys can use it to negotiate a better deal. :D

Sure JD Power is a bit whacked, but if you're dead last even due to some bias, there's little argument that somehow, you don't have a bit of a problem.
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This article provide a bit more information and analysis about the J.D. Power study.

http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03 ... ity-study/

and checkout this page on the J.D. Power site: http://www.jdpower.com/autos/ratings/de ... s-by-brand
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roverca14
bhill03 said:
Never understood why people buy HSE's then spend money on Supercharged-like options.
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Speaking only for myself my entire life I've had this thing for "bells & whistles" over uber-performance. So for me to by the SC with all that I want, I'd end up paying $10-$15 grand more. So (for me) it's still cheaper to go with the HSE.

I also eat quiche....

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gooseyloosey said:
From today's release of the latest JD Power. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a6vimtbt2YqQ

"Tata Motors Ltd.’s Land Rover had 255 problems per 100 vehicles, the worst score in the study." :doh:

Maybe you guys can use it to negotiate a better deal. :D

Sure JD Power is a bit whacked, but if you're dead last even due to some bias, there's little argument that somehow, you don't have a bit of a problem.
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True. However in fairness, the data per the article is based on 2007 MY vehicles. I think there (may) have been more issues with LR back then and/or becasue the RRS was still a "brand new" model in 2006-07 more people were making complaints.

As the former owner of a 2008 & now 2010 I've never had a single problem and have always given LR a great rating when contacted by JD Power.
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CA-SPORT said:
gooseyloosey said:
From today's release of the latest JD Power. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a6vimtbt2YqQ

"Tata Motors Ltd.’s Land Rover had 255 problems per 100 vehicles, the worst score in the study." :doh:

Maybe you guys can use it to negotiate a better deal. :D

Sure JD Power is a bit whacked, but if you're dead last even due to some bias, there's little argument that somehow, you don't have a bit of a problem.
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True. However in fairness, the data per the article is based on 2007 MY vehicles. I think there (may) have been more issues with LR back then and/or becasue the RRS was still a "brand new" model in 2006-07 more people were making complaints.

As the former owner of a 2008 & now 2010 I've never had a single problem and have always given LR a great rating when contacted by JD Power.
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CA, like you did, I own a 2008 and ditto, its been a very reliable vehicle. But based on this forum, I think what happens with LR is that you either get a good one, or one that's been made the day after a big Brit holiday and beset with problems. For every vehicle with only 0-1 problem (me, you), there's another with 4 problems. It's really a crapshoot. I give them some leeway since most other brands don't come with all the gizmos that LR's do (i.e., compressors, etc.). Plus there's more of a customer learning curve as well...but geez, last place?
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