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We are about to take delivery of our new to us 91 RR Classic. One of the last issues to resolve is replacing the original 205-80-16's that are on there. Exact size replacements are either not available or SUPER expensive with only one brand to choose from.

There are about 8 alternate sizes. I would like to know which would provide an equivalent performance and ride that was intended by the designers. Any thoughts?
 

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I run 235x85x16 General Grabber AT

If you prefer you can use 235x70 as it was sold original in Europe but it gives you less ground clearance. Goodrich are very good, too but too expensive here :)
 

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I just put new tires on so have gone through a bunch of deliberation on what tire size to use - there are a couple of important considerations

1) Does your RRC have any sort of a lift on it? This will effect the size of tire that can be accommodated without further modifications.
2) How do you intend to use the vehicle - is it going to be primarily on pavement, or do you want a trail rig?

If it is a stock vehicle and you are sticking to the pavement there are lots of 225/75 r16 choices that are very close to stock size in height and about 10% wider - makes for easy fitment. Larger tires may effect acceleration, turning radius and tracking. If you are going off road, I believe that 215/85 r16 is the tallest that can be accommodated without a lift, though I believe some report rubbing at full articulation. Wider tires can be accommodated but you will need to adjust the steering stops and that will affect your turning radius.

Another consideration is the load rating - many people like LT tires for offroad use due to their stronger sidewall construction. LT E rated tires will make for a harsher ride on the pavement, so you might want to look for a P-metric tire with an XL rating if that is your main driving use.

If you have a lift and are wanting to hit the trail then you need to figure out how much of a lift you have and go from there.

In my case I have a 2" lift but the vehicle is primarily used on pavement (the wife's Defender is our offroad rig :) ) The 205/80s that were on the car when I bought it looked silly with the lift, and my intention was to go with a road tire that would look like the 205/80s on a stock vehicle (I don't want it to look like a trail rig) I settled on 235/75 r16 Michelin Defender LTX m/s tires which are about an inch taller and an inch wider (I was hoping the extra width might add a little stability at freeway speeds.) These have an XL load rating of 112 which exceeds the RRC spec. Just took a 300 mile trip last weekend and am very pleased with the choice - almost no change in gas mileage or performance and the ride is more comfortable... it may be my imagination, but I think the stability of the rig has improved with the new tires. I did have to adjust the steering stops slightly from the factory spec 40.5mm to 45mm but this isn't even noticeable win my turning radius... 42mm the tires probably would have cleared but I now have a good margin to allow for any bulging under load


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It depends a little what you like. I think originally (1972) these cars came out with what was standard for land rover of the longer wheelbase type: 7.5R16 which is basically a 190/100 R16. A skinny tall tire which is good for typical UK farmer mud work as the skinny tire sinks through the mud onto firmer ground (typically chalk).

This original look is completely outdated and for the right or wrong reasons tires have grown wider and wider. The height might have stayed about the same but with a wider tire the aspect ratio goes down.

For your comparison below are pictures of my choice: a fairly skinny tire (215/85R16 aka 215R15 Cooper Discoverer) which I prefer on my early (1983) vehicle. I don't find handling compromised and frankly it is not as if these are cars to race around the corner as it is. Nice and quiet on the road as well. My offroading is limited to beach and steep rocky paths which these (in fact most) tires do just fine. In any case I think offroading is more about skill than car/tire as it is.

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Beautiful RRC!<br><br>I'm a big fan of the skinny tire look also, especially on the earlier models - I think had I been able to find a 215/85 that wasn't LT - E rated that's what I would have gone with. Our RRC is our road tripper so I was really focused on highway comfort... In the long run I actually would like to remove the lift.
 

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One thing I forgot to mention is that if you go with a taller tire than the 205/80 r16 you will probably have issues using the stock spare tire mount. I have my tire mounted in the same place but it is at a bit of any angle as it will not fit under the rear shoulder belt mount. Currently it is strapped in, but I am creating an adaptor that will relocate the threaded clamp so I can use the original mounting pieces.
 

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The early RR's were spec'd with the 205R16 (82 Aspect ratio) from the start. They did not get the 7.50x16. Those 215/85's do look good, but I found they throw my speedometer off. The 225/75R16's put my speedo back 100% accurate, so that's what I run.
 

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I'm in the same situation looking for a 205 replacement.

I two great Michelin Synchrone 205 80 R16's, but need two replacements. Synchrones are NLA so will probably end up replacing as a set of 4.

Using the tyre size calculator, the 235 70 R16 looks to have the same sidewall height of 165mm.

245 70 R16 gives even more options and will fit on the 7" wheel. 245's seem cheaper where I am too.

I'm looking at Goodyear Efficientgrip Performance SUV in 245s.

Let us know how you get on.
 

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https://www.tacomaworld.com/tirecalc?tires=205-80r16-225-70r16

When I got my 91
It had an original tire as the spare
In very good condition
Same when I got the 92
And found one in a rover at a junk yard
So I have three very good spares
That don’t look like they have ever been on
The ground
Hopeing to find one more
Who knows I might
 

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I have 235/75/r16 Hankook Dynapro ATM tyres on my 1991 County.

Absolutely fantastic! Very quiet for an all terrain, great look, and I've never had a better "budget" tyre on snow, sleet, ice, or rain. Would highly recommend them. I got them for $500 installed with 3 year road warranty from Discount Tire. Not noticeably larger than the originals either which is nice.

Only downside.. 60MPH on the speedo is 57 according to GPS.

Let me know if you'd like photos.
 

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I'm on the 215/85/16 boat. Cooper Discoverer STT Pro, $136/tire from discount tire. It's an aggressive tread pattern and phenomenal offload, but very well mannered on road. I wouldn't say they are quiet, but they are tolerable.

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I've had Yokohama 215 85R16 on my truck for a couple of years & like them them quite a bit.
 

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I run BFG Commercial TA Traction in size LT215/85R16 with a2-in lift. No squirreliness on the highway, insane treadwear, not harsh at allon the highway, and very quiet. These tires get very good reviews.
I used to run 235/85R16s, but as has been mentioned, theysuck HP (which is very limited with the 3.9 or 4.2), and because they’re veryheavy, overtax your brakes because of the rotational inertia.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/BFGoodrich-Commercial-T-A-Traction-All-Terrain-Tire-LT215-85R16-D-110-107Q/4061432?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&adid=22222222227010626380&wl0=&wl1=s&wl2=c&wl3=40839656432&wl4=pla-78653080472&wl5=9027254&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=4061432&wl13=&veh=sem&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIuPfK5Zny3gIVg5JbCh1NtgPCEAYYASABEgId6_D_BwE


 

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Good Morning,

We are about to take delivery of our new to us 91 RR Classic. One of the last issues to resolve is replacing the original 205-80-16's that are on there. Exact size replacements are either not available or SUPER expensive with only one brand to choose from.

There are about 8 alternate sizes. I would like to know which would provide an equivalent performance and ride that was intended by the designers. Any thoughts?
Lots of good input here - curious what you decided? Post some pics when you get them put on.

Cheers
 
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