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hi all, as you may know, i am changing my 4.0 engine for a 4.6, i also have the 4.6 ecu, if i plug this in, will sync-mate syncronise the ecu to the car, or will it only work with an ecu that has already been running on the car

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This is a great question! I am changing my 4.6 for a 4.0 I have been questioning the same thing..
Looking forward to the answer here..

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Call BlackBox directly and ask them. They seem very competant and customer oriented. They are the authorities on their product and 'BBS SPY' is the owner of the company and posts in the Diagnostics section. Good luck.

I bought a syncmate for 'peace of mind' after hearing of so many issues.
 

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Col. you out there?
 

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here is the answer

Hi, Sorry for the delay. In theory it would, but we don't do a BeCM Sync-Mate for Gems as they don't have the fault that the diesels and motronics have. I'm afraid you will need to take it to a franchised or independent dealer. Or you could buy your own diagnostic tool that they have. We sell one called the Faultmate MSV-2 in our shop. It will do everthing possible diagnostic wise on your car, and actually more than Land Rover's own Testbook/IDS system.
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firestorm said:
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Hi, Sorry for the delay. In theory it would, but we don't do a BeCM Sync-Mate for Gems as they don't have the fault that the diesels and motronics have. I'm afraid you will need to take it to a franchised or independent dealer. Or you could buy your own diagnostic tool that they have. We sell one called the Faultmate MSV-2 in our shop. It will do everthing possible diagnostic wise on your car, and actually more than Land Rover's own Testbook/IDS system.
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Thats what I said in my previous answer to your question :roll:
The BSM01 is for the P38 motronic engine.Check Blackbox-solutions.com website for further info.
P38,s were made from 95-2002,but not all had Motronic Engine management
 

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Hiya all
Yes i am indeed very much out there, and very much still doing what i do to help the Land Rover community as best i can, as per usual :lol:
However please forgive me if it takes me a while to respond to a specific question for me here, although this was once the only forum i frequented, times have changed and i now contribute my time and the sharing my knowledge and experience on over a dozen other forums now.

Our sync mate is really simple to understand in terms of what it does.
In the case of either Diesel EDC or 1999 Petrol Motronics, it wakes up the respective engine management ECU and gets its unique and specific to each ECU, mobilization code, It then wakes up the BeCM and stores that code in it, thus re synchronizing the BeCM to the engine management and allowing the vehicle to start. These codes are fixed. Ie i could have 2 Motronic ECU's and write their respective start / immobilization codes on them with a felt pen.

Our understanding and experience being that the BeCM has a well known habit of periodically forgetting their programmed Mobilisation code.
With over 500 Sync mates sold to date, i am guessing that our understanding and experience is not entirely without merit and that our willingness to provide such a low cost fix for this has helped P38 owners significantly.

Technically the GEMS immobilization works a bit differently. In this case it does not matter exactly what code the BeCM has and transmits. And i guess that at production time a code is chosen entirely at random.
However the GEMS must be taught to accept the code transmitted by the BeCM and as such it does have a "Learn mode". I can therefore learn two GEMS EMS ECU's to suit a given vehicle / BeCM.

It is possible that GEMS vehicles might also be affected, although we are not sure that this is so and we have asked for feedback as to if we should also provide a GEMS sync mate, but the jury is still out.

If you want a GEMS sync mate, let me know and i will happily knock one up.

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Don't just knock one up Colin, Knock up 20 or so.

This code loss problem affects all management sytems. It seem's over the past few months that the Gems code loss has affected more owners than the Bosch/Edc put together, me ole buddy.
 

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I have to say that via our Ebay shop in particular, we have been getting ever more and more people ask if our sync mate products covers GEMS vehicles, and since the problem stems from the BeCM the liklyhood is that GEMS will also be affected, i will have that addressed in a jiffy.
 

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Well Firestorm & Rick, It is done already.
Sync Mate code now modified to include GEMS.
We have been testing it for a few days now, and have got in a couple of Gems P38's besides my own to test on.

We will be building the first batch early next week and It will appear in our Ebay and Web shop before the end of the week. :thumb:

Unlike the Motronic and EDC (Diesel) Sync Mates, which go from Blue (Indicating operation) to solid Green (indicating re sync done) or Flashing Green (indicating re Sync done but was already correct) the GEMS version ends in alternating Blue and Green, as at that point the GEMS ECU is in learn mode and the job is not actually complete until the ignition is re cycled.
 
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