[tbone89]

Stock ’06–’08 19” wheels on ’10, Tire Size, & TPMS Question

After reading the many posts on wheel swaps, TPMS, winter tires et al., I think I have arrived at a plan forward but would like to ask for the experienced folks’ validation / critique / tips prior pulling the trigger.

Scenario: live in southern CA, but love ski season and not a fan of putting on chains in the slush. Thanks to the many posts, have decided to invest in a set of dedicated wheels & tires for the 3 months of the year that I might actually be on snow.

The Plan:

Wheels: get a set of used 19” RRS OEM wheels (plenty on ebay)

Tires: Nokian WRG2’s by web (called various San Diego dealers to see if they can order Nokians. Some of the responses were kind of amusing... clearly not a major market for Nokian. Me: “I know you don’t stock them, but are you able to order or know of anyone who could order Nokian tires?” Discount Tire guy: “um, yeah… some of those specialty Asian brands are hard to get”). :doh:

TPMS: will get a 2nd set from bputah.com

Questions on my mind:

Wheels:

• 1. All the used 19” wheels are from RRS ’06-’08 models. From everything I am seeing, they should work fine on my 2010 RRS HSE. I would be replacing 20” stock fitted with 275/40R20 Michelins. Am I missing anything?
  2. If the wheels are from a ’06 RRS, they may or may not have holes drilled for TPMS, correct?
  3. Some websites list the stock wheels as 19x9 and others 19x9.5… which is it?

Tires:
The Nokian WRG2’s are available as 255/50R19 and 255/55R19. I believe 255/50R19 is the right size for 19x9 wheels, correct?

TPMS:
From what I have read, it appears a quality tire shop should be able to affix the TPMS sensors to the wheels just fine. Saw a post recommending one should record serial number(s) of the TPMS sensors prior install in case there are issues with the RRS’ auto-detect. Anything special I should look for in shop / ask for when bringing them to get attached?

I saw where umbertob mentioned that so long as the tire pressure is the same on the 19” wheels, then TPMS should work fine. Not sure if I fully understood the post. Am I understanding correctly that tire pressure should be same (or close) between the 275/40R20’s and the 255/50R19’s or 255/55R19’s?

Many thanks for your thoughts/advice.

 

[vinniman]

Re: Stock ’06–’08 19” wheels on ’10, Tire Size, & TPMS Question

G'Day Tbone89.

Say hello to all those snow bunnies from me in Tahoe, as I'm sitting in 42+ Degrees celcius inside with the "Chilly wind" on in Oz !
Do you do any towing or just freeway work and general city cruising as the biggest issue was 19" tyre availability is very limiting.

If you get the chance, speak to Centerline wheels in Santa Fe about their 18" fitments, as they may have a suitable 18" product.
I think 'Uber-tomb' mentioned all MY2010 RRS brake discs have increased in size over earlier models which might be restrictive.

Your plan is feasible, as long as you're happy with the result and I'd replace the 20 inch tyres with Yokohama's when their worn.

Cheerio,

Vinniman
'88 Highline
Perth, W.A.

 

[The boss]

Re: Stock ’06–’08 19” wheels on ’10, Tire Size, & TPMS Question

you could put them on or you could just put it in snow mode.

Ok, not the best wheel but do yourself a favour and drive up to the ski area and get a feel for the vehicle before deciding. Remember, snow mode first not after you start sliding.

if you buy the rims they have to 19 x 9.0 and above. early ones were 19*8. not a pretty picture if you put the rims on.

plus you need to make sure the wheel weights that are applied are on the inside stick ons. We had issues a few years ago with them causing problems with the wrong wheel weights.

oh and the wheels are built for tpm sensors. You will have to get the ones for a 2010 not a 2006. just put them on and drive the vehicle over three miles and you should be fine.

 

[umbertob]

Re: Stock ’06–’08 19” wheels on ’10, Tire Size, & TPMS Question

Questions on my mind:

Wheels:

• 1. All the used 19” wheels are from RRS ’06-’08 models. From everything I am seeing, they should work fine on my 2010 RRS HSE. I would be replacing 20” stock fitted with 275/40R20 Michelins. Am I missing anything?
  2. If the wheels are from a ’06 RRS, they may or may not have holes drilled for TPMS, correct?
  3. Some websites list the stock wheels as 19x9 and others 19x9.5… which is it?

Tires:
The Nokian WRG2’s are available as 255/50R19 and 255/55R19. I believe 255/50R19 is the right size for 19x9 wheels, correct?

TPMS:
From what I have read, it appears a quality tire shop should be able to affix the TPMS sensors to the wheels just fine. Saw a post recommending one should record serial number(s) of the TPMS sensors prior install in case there are issues with the RRS’ auto-detect. Anything special I should look for in shop / ask for when bringing them to get attached?

I saw where umbertob mentioned that so long as the tire pressure is the same on the 19” wheels, then TPMS should work fine. Not sure if I fully understood the post. Am I understanding correctly that tire pressure should be same (or close) between the 275/40R20’s and the 255/50R19’s or 255/55R19’s?

As Boss said, there was a limited number of early production 2006 OEM 19" wheels that were only 8" deep, not sure if any of those made it across the pond back in 2005. This used to be an issue only for people trying to fit 19" wheels over the Brembo calipers of 06/09 S/C, but now that the HSE brakes have grown larger in 2010 make sure that the OEM rims you purchase are 9x19 - they probably are but double check with the seller before bidding on a set. And the caution about wheel weights is valid on MY06/09s, may be the same on 2010s. Clamp-on inner wheel weights could chafe against certain brake lines. Make sure they use only stick-on weights inside the rim when balancing the wheels.

TPMS sensors don't need an extra "hole" in the wheel to operate, the sensor replaces the traditional valve stem and any reputable tire shop can install them when they mount the tires on your new wheels. However, I do believe that the 2010s may be using a different TPMS module compared to 06-09s, so the pressure sensors in the wheels may not be compatible across model years. If you are buying extra sensors from bputah or anywhere else, make sure you tell them they will be for a MY2010. Other than that, the system should automatically recognize new sensors on the running wheels after a few miles of driving, so no need to write down the serial number.

As long as the tires you will be using are inflated to Land Rover's specs - regardless of tire or rim size - the sensors will not throw a fault code (on MY06-09 it is 38psi F and 42 R, not sure if it's the same for MY2010s?) And if you want to make your ride a little softer and more comfortable there are very little drawbacks in upsizing your winter wheels slightly from "OEM" 255/50 to 255/55/19s. Either size will work fine, but if you are concerned about possible warranty issues down the road stick with the OEM recommendation of 255/50 even for your winter wheels (also, if you ever get a flat, remember that the compact spare is sized to match your stockers.)

 

[TripleE]

Re: Stock ’06–’08 19” wheels on ’10, Tire Size, & TPMS Question

3. Some websites list the stock wheels as 19x9 and others 19x9.5… which is it?

Careful on websites and ebay, they have very tricky wordage regarding "OEM" or "OEM style", etc. wheels. Someone even calls their site "OEM Wheels" and uses that verbage throughout their ebay listings. If they dont' explicitly state they ARE OEM, they are not.

TPMS:
From what I have read, it appears a quality tire shop should be able to affix the TPMS sensors to the wheels just fine. Saw a post recommending one should record serial number(s) of the TPMS sensors prior install in case there are issues with the RRS’ auto-detect. Anything special I should look for in shop / ask for when bringing them to get attached?

Simple to attach; tire shop wanted to charge me $5 a sensor and I literally said "wtf, I can do that myself". Ok, ok, without the wtf. :lol: Mine were auto recognized right away and I never saw a TPMS error message.

 

[Drevs]

Re: Stock ’06–’08 19” wheels on ’10, Tire Size, & TPMS Question

Could also look into using your factory 20's with an offroad tire, then getting a whole new set of 22's/tires for you summer shoes. It is cheaper than you'd think, and you'd avoid the whole 19" tire fiasco.

 

[tbone89]

Re: Stock ’06–’08 19” wheels on ’10, Tire Size, & TPMS Question

Could also look into using your factory 20's with an offroad tire, then getting a whole new set of 22's/tires for you summer shoes. It is cheaper than you'd think, and you'd avoid the whole 19" tire fiasco.

Drevs, been out of pocket for awhile, so just saw your suggestion. Yes, I thought about that. What made me stick with using 19's for snow was the manual saying you can only use chains on wheels up to 19". It got to the point where I had to make a decision before my month long ski sojourn, so I found a set of mint condition factory 19's at a local wheel dealer for a bit under $500. Someone upgraded theirs'.

 

[Drevs]

Re: Stock ’06–’08 19” wheels on ’10, Tire Size, & TPMS Question

Indeed, you DEFINITELY would not want to use chains with the standard 285/50-20 Cooper LTZs that many of us are running. That's would be ugly.