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I would like to hear owners thoughts on why they chose the bigger, less agile handling, full sized RR over the sport?

Ideally, we would like the extra third row seats in cases where we need it. That would make the sport a contender. Haven’t driven the sport. Have only driven the full size. Like the look of the full sized a little better. Would like to hear everyone else’s thoughts and reasons.
 

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If agile handling is your priority, neither one is a great choice, although they do handle well for big heavy SUVs. I've always got the full sized because it's the iconic Range Rover, and I like the extra personal space for driver and passengers. It's very much a 7 series vs 5 series or S class vs E class decision.
 

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There is much more to life than performance. Comfort, open space and the more reserved styling is far more appealing to many folks. Should someone want handling and performance they usually want or have a second vehicle more in keeping with traits like "agility".
 

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L405 is the ultimate Range Rover imo. If you’re in the maket for luxurious suv vs sporty suv there’s nothing better than the Range Rover.

if you’re more into sport than luxury for SUVs, SVR or perhaps cayenne GTS/Turbo is a better option.
 

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In my opinion there are other SUV's out there that our able to provide more than what the Sport is supposed to provide in "sportiness". There is no other SUV out there that is able to provide the form factor and luxury that the full size provides.
 

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I recently went from a 2015 RRS to 2017 RR.

While I owned the RRS I tried convincing myself that it was a closer similarity than it really is. I much prefer the full size RR after 5k miles of ownership and 53k miles on the RRS. The biggest areas are the rear liftgate being 2 piece vs 1. The addtl cabin space is also welcomed and while on paper it might not appear larger you can feel it sitting inside. The addtl cargo space in the back is useful or me. The sun glass holders in the driver and passenger door is handy as is the 2 compartment glove box vs 1 on the RRS.

Lastly I find the updated infotainment system to be a huge improvement but that is more a model year change than a RR vs RRS sport difference. I enjoyed both vehicles no doubt and the Sport is a great suv I just can now appreciate why the full size RR is the iconic model.
 

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Thank you Cabo40 for your RR vs RRS experiences, living with both is the best basis for comparison. Regarding storage, for the 18 model year the RRS receives the door storage compartments and the double glove box. Both RR and RRS will get the new below front center console cup holder storage, but the full size loses the front door armrest storage compartments.
 

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As of 2014, the RRS is now just a full-size Evoque. The 2008-2013 design held its own very well, but not any longer. Go with the full-size RR and never look back.
 

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I've been driving a 2017 RRS Td6 for a year and just got a 2018 RR SC V8--500 miles so far. I struggled with the same question.

RR is quieter (at least this year). View is better: windshield angle is slightly more vertical, side windows are taller, rear window gives a full view out the back, not cut-off at the top as on the RRS. The higher windshield gives you more view of anything near the top of it--either mountains when traveling or else red lights in the city. The cabin is more open: center console is lower, front dash is more vertical, roof is higher above you. The rear passengers have more space, and the cargo area is a little longer and more room at the top in case of piling in a lot of stuff. Split tailgate is not to be underestimated.

I actually do drive off-road, and the RR has more wheel articulation on the rear wheels anyway. For sure, it's a softer suspension, so that has to help a lot over rocks. Note that either the RRS or RR will disengage sway bars off-road only with the V8 engine (so far as I could determine). So V8 adds to the wheel articulation on either model. RR has a little more ground clearance than RRS as well.

Starting this year, RR has a dynamic mode in all trim levels. It tightens the steering, suspension and transmission shift points. Makes a noticeable difference in the handling. I could do without the more aggressive shifting, but so long as you don't overuse the throttle, it's OK. The handling is still not as good as my Td6 RRS, but it's predictable and OK going around tight turns even. Note that on either RR or RRS, only the V8 engine (in the US) gets the active cornering enhancement (ACE), which corrects about half of the body roll in corners. It's good enough on the RR that body roll is just not any practical concern anymore. With any other engine, you might want to carefully test-drive to be sure you're happy with the body roll. It will depend on your driving style and attitude.

The RR is much more refined in the ride. Everyone says "magic carpet", and that's almost right. I have both RRS and RR now, and I've tested both going over the same railroad tracks and rough pavement. With the RR, you just don't care about what you're driving on. Glides right over it. The RRS is more truck-like--a little more bouncy and tighter going up and down. In some ways, the RRS is more exciting to drive due to the feeling from the road. But for everyday use, it's just nicer not to worry with bumps so much. Don't misunderstand: relative to some other SUV's the RRS is actually refined. I've driven the same long 4WD trail in a Tahoe and an Expedition (air suspension), both low-range; and also in the RRS low-range. The RRS was relaxing vs the other two. I'm expecting the RR to be even more relaxing on the same trail based on what I've noticed so far.

Another factor is tire choice. For my off-road use, I want BFG KO2 275/55 on 20 inch wheels (mostly for puncture resistance but also good in snow). Once you put the KO2's on the RRS, the handling is affected anyway. So the RR doesn't lose much in handling compared to that; and the ride, view and loadspace are very much better. BTW, I did my handling comparisons taking the tires into account. I've now exchanged the KO2's from the RRS onto the RR, so it's all fair--compared both RRS and RR with both sets of tires. The KO2's don't affect the handling of the RR much.

At least with the non-AB levels of trim, the interior quality is similar RRS or RR. I got the extended leather option on the RRS (unavailable on RR), and it's nicer than the RR PVC dash and door sills. Yes, the RR has a leather center on the steering wheel (unavailable on non-AB RRS). And I noticed that the cargo cover seems better made on the RR. Wood on the RR is pretty, but RRS has tough aluminum which probably wears better. Seats on the RRS are better fitted for thin people like me, but the RR seats this year are very comfortable (22-way massage seats are the ones I know).

One more thing. On neither RR or RRS do the rear seats fold completely flat anymore. But RR is flatter than RRS, comparing the two I have. That's helpful. Note that the RR "executive" rear seats are a different case.
 

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Good point on the rear seats. That is one thing I have dealt with a number of times as I use the entire cargo area to haul stuff routinely. The RR seats fold lower in my experience than the RRS. Neither fold flat but the RR is the notable better of the two.
 

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The RR is much more refined in the ride. Everyone says "magic carpet", and that's almost right. I have both RRS and RR now, and I've tested both going over the same railroad tracks and rough pavement. With the RR, you just don't care about what you're driving on. Glides right over it. The RRS is more truck-like--a little more bouncy and tighter going up and down.
I too have both in the garage, and I couldn't agree more.
They are very different. Both are totally awesome. It really comes down to personal preference. I prefer the full size.
 

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I just switched from a 14 RRS HSE to a 14 RR SC. The are really different vehicles. Personally, I like the RR because it has a better presence on the road. It's also a lot smoother driving and while the RRS is sportier, neither is exactly great at handling. Trim quality is way better on the RR but it should be for the increased price. Both have the same average infotainment. Gas mileage, if that's a factor, is much worse in the RR.
 

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Took my RRS into the dealer for service and took advantage by test driving a 2018 L405 base and a Supercharged. Part of me wants to stick to the original plan and keep mine to almost 100k miles and then get the next generation full size, and part of me wants to get the full size before I hit 50,000 miles later this year. I have the extended warranty so that's not the issue, but I know the value drops after 50,000 miles as the dealer can no longer certify my vehicle.

The RRS has been very reliable and drives great, and honestly the full size to me is not as fun, but it has amazing presence, more space and comfort, and frankly is iconic. Every time I see a full size drive by I wonder if I should make the jump.

Obviously it would be a rather costly move. I thought about getting the HSE to soften the blow, but it would be hard to move from the V8 to the V6.

My dealer is willing to let me put an order in under no obligation and without a deposit, so I will probably do that for a Fall delivery and see how the numbers work at the time.

Regardless of what I do this year, I expect my next vehicle to be a full size.
 

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My Dealer in Houston has sold several L405's Certified with over 55K. They looked brand new! I test drove on last year while in for service. It was so perfect.
 

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On 2018 RR, the door sunglass compartment is gone <img src="http://www.rangerovers.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif" border="0" alt="" title="" class="inlineimg" />
Is there a cubby behind the bottom screen? It looks kind of like there is in photos.
 

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I haven't seen one. The only new cubby I found is below the cupholders, which now slide forward revealing a compartment below.
 

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I live in Florida, agility is not a factor as the only curves we see is when we exit the highways, everything else is straight lines or 90 degree turns. I have both 2016 Sport V8 and 2018 full size V8, The full size seems to take more room to make a tight U turn while the Sport turns on a dime, full size is quieter and ride is so much plush, its a mater of preference, in Europe Id definitely take the sport, there is way more body roll in the full size.
In paper there is only 1/10 difference in 1/4 mile times, but the transmission mapping is different also the absence of engine noise in the full size makes your brain believe its slower, but make no mistake the full size is just as fast.
Personally I find the RR Sport to be the perfect size for most conditions, although the throttle feels too snappy for my taste. Anyway I got the full size because I fly model airplanes and I needed the extra inches to fit larger airplanes, I've only had it for 300 miles, but so far all is well and I love it.......
 

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No need to knock one or the other. It all comes down to personal preference. I thought I would replace my l322 with another Range Rover until I drove the new sport. I just prefer the size and driving feel over the l405. We had a 1st gen sport and I was never impressed with it.

And for for the person that called it an evoque... have you driven one?
 

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I have just gone from driving a 2011 RRS to driving a 2013 RR and I was really nervous about making the change. I loved the Sport and it had never let me down, I just fancied a change, had a look and thought about different priorities. (I also love the collection of toys the RR came with including the rear media units and ambient lighting throughout). I guess personal preference is just that, what you prefer for you and your family however for me, I love the high level of comfort and quality that I get from my RR.
 
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