RH exhaust manifold part #

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NachoMan77

Discussion Starter · Feb 23, 2010

Hi,

well, it had to happen.... after having my mechanic replace first the exhaust manifold gaskets, which 2 days later resulted in my RH head gasket blowing, which 2 weeks later (between waiting for parts and labor) resulted in a full head gasket (and valve) job...now he calls me and tell me that the RH exhaust gasket has a crack !!!

OMFG ! apparently this will never end. By now my wife is pissed cause she's been on foot for 2 weeks, so when I told her the bad news you can imagine her reaction.

Anyway, they tried to weld the crack but they couldn't. Crack is located on the ridged part.

In my mind I have 3 choices:

1) try to get someone else to weld it. Probably replacing the ridged section with a straight pipe. Something tells me this isn't a good idea and sooner or later I'll be wishing I chose option #2 or 3

2) get a 2nd hand part (usually under usd 100). This has the inconvenience that the part needs to be tested before hand and that since I need to fly it here via courier, it will get expensive real quick (manifold is 15lbs). Plus, manifold needs to be checked for cracks, cause I cannot aford to ship that mosntruosity back for en exchange in case it's also cracked (which apparently was very common for RH exhaust manfiolds)

3) Man up and pay AB usd 300 for a brand new original part.

I'll try to give option #2 a chance, but here's were the plot thickens....

According to RAVE, there were 2 part #s for the RH exhaust manifold:

ERR5467 up to VIN# XA410667 (i.e.: '99MY)

LKC102470 from VIN# XA410667 onwards.

Since my VIN is YAxxxxxx ('00MY), I need to get the later whoch obviously isn't as available as the previous part.

Now the questions for all you smart chaps are as follows:

- can I fit the previous part# ?

- is the new part# an improvement over the previous part# ? I remember reading about a recall. If that's the case, getting the later part# is a must.

- is there a quick DIY test for cracks in the manifold ? For example, if Scotty hooks me up (which probably he can with the new donor truck) how can he make sure that the part is uncracked without it attached to a working engine ?

Already emailed Will Tillery. I'll ask him about the part # difference, but my hunch is he has big pile of unmounted manifolds and he can't (or doesn't care to) tell the difference between them. Probably I'm obsesing with this more than it's worth, but I really like to make an informed decision.

Please advise.

Thanks in advance,

N.

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NachoMan77

Discussion Starter · #2 · Feb 23, 2010

For completeness sake, here's a reference to a recall campaign which doesn't affect my VIN# but may be relevant for somebody else.

http://jimsrover.afraid.org/rover/Recal ... acking.pdf

N.

luvs2getmuddy

· #3 · Feb 23, 2010

I am in the same boat. My RH exhaust Manifold is also cracked, gonna replace it with a used one, one of these days.

edit< I am not quite sure how to read the recal vin range,
YA441200 to 1A457215 , mine is 2a464915 , I don't qualify, right?

NachoMan77

Discussion Starter · #4 · Feb 23, 2010

luvs2getmuddy said:
I am in the same boat. My RH exhaust Manifold is also cracked, gonna replace it with a used one, one of these days.

edit< I am not quite sure how to read the recal vin range,
YA441200 to 1A457215 , mine is 2a464915 , I don't qualify, right?

Exactly, apparently you got a good part.

How about the noise on your manifold ? Is it noticeable to regular folks ? How about your gas mileage ? Any loss in power ?

I'm so sick from all this mess that I just want to replace the goddamn thing and be over with it for a really long time.... yeah, I'll keep dreaming...

I hope some of the resident experts can tell us if it's ok to use the previous part#.

N.

NachoMan77

Discussion Starter · #5 · Feb 23, 2010

Ok, I'm about to order a used manifold from Will Tillery.

I guess I'll have to live without knowing what's the difference between both part #s.

Wish me luck....

ray:

N.

luvs2getmuddy

· #6 · Feb 23, 2010

NachoMan77 said:
luvs2getmuddy said:

I am in the same boat. My RH exhaust Manifold is also cracked, gonna replace it with a used one, one of these days.

edit< I am not quite sure how to read the recal vin range,
YA441200 to 1A457215 , mine is 2a464915 , I don't qualify, right?

Click to expand...

Exactly, apparently you got a good part.

How about the noise on your manifold ? Is it noticeable to regular folks ? How about your gas mileage ? Any loss in power ?

I'm so sick from all this mess that I just want to replace the goddamn thing and be over with it for a really long time.... yeah, I'll keep dreaming...

I hope some of the resident experts can tell us if it's ok to use the previous part#.

N.

It is quite loud when the truck is cold and started, but you can hear some ticking as you are driving. Power is plentyfull, not sure about mileage, its shitty but I don't makeit a priority to get good gas mileage, I drive city, and freeway speeds(120-140Kms/h) daily. I believe the computer is reading 14.7mpg, and its cold here too.

onetime

· #7 · Feb 23, 2010

Had the same issues, including the head gasket Job, got a used manifold from local breaker for £50, has i slight blow but nothing bad, much better than mine. You could try rimmer bros, my local part supplier for new parts they have web site they are about £250 each side. Thye other think to do is to adapt some of the sportS headers from the classic, there were some on ebay for around £80 both sides but i missed them and didn't wnat the work or labour charges, its cold here in the uk at present -1c and i don't fancy spending a few hours on the drive with my head in the V8.As far as i can tell it the down pipe conections to the cats that will need to be changed, if Anybody knows any differnt lets us know, because these are the tubular type manifolds with no flex joint to break so may solve all the issues.
cheers
ONETIME

NachoMan77

Discussion Starter · #8 · Feb 23, 2010

Update:

Will Tillery took care of me in record time. Part is on it's way as we speak. Based on his online reputation, I'm pretty confident I'll be very satisfied with the part.

Don't know what part# I'll be getting though. When I emailed Will he told me he'll make sure I get the "correct part". No further explanation given. Maybe there isn't a further explanation and I'm reading too much into this part# situation. I decided to trust Will's judgement and opted to relax and go with the flow.

Manifold is crack free (tested) which is a big plus for me since I'm a foreign buyer. Best of all, I paid USD 100 for it, shipped to FL.

N.

onetime

· #9 · Feb 24, 2010

Nice one hope you get it sorted. I have one here in my garage now, not sure if it cracked or not, i suppose the only eay to check would be to seal the holes and put a bit of water in a stick an air line on it.
cheers anyway
Onetime

Ps nice place to live!!

englishdan

· #10 · Sep 13, 2010

Apologies for resurrecting this old thread, but it is as close as I got to answering my question when I was searching the forums..
I also tried the TSB link to jimsrover in this thread, but it is dead. Is there a new site?

I have a 2001 P38a with a leaking RH manifold.. It would appear from the VIN range quoted in this thread that mine should be covered under recall.. The last 8 of my VIN being 1A449087.
My nearest dealer in McAllen TX is apparently useless when it comes to service bulletins - after she said 'no there is no such recall or TSB 166' she handed the phone to the parts guy who couldn't find the part # to give me a quote! I've been waiting for a call back since Thursday..

So, my question to those more knowledgeable and may have access to the original TSB, does my VIN fall into the recall range or not? If so, where do I go from here??

Thanks
Dan

onetime

· #11 · Sep 13, 2010

Hello, cannot help on the recalls i am affraid but someone will i am sure, i have sold my rangie now about 6 months ago, leaking manifold turned out to be headgasket that led to burn't piston so it had to go, still miss it but not the bills anyway good luck nice place to live, why is it me that is stuck in the north of england cold and wet with no range rover.
onetime

Gagamac

· #12 · Sep 13, 2010

Date: 03/08/2005
Component Name: 063200 ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:EXHAUST SYSTEM:MANIFOLD/HEADER/MUFFLER/TAIL PIPE
NHTSA #: 166
SUMMARY: RECALL ACTION-RIGHT SIDE EXHAUST MANIFOLD CRACKING. *SC

Date: 03/08/2005
Component Name: 063200 ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:EXHAUST SYSTEM:MANIFOLD/HEADER/MUFFLER/TAIL PIPE
NHTSA #: 166
SUMMARY: RECALL ACTION-RIGHT SIDE EXHAUST MANIFOLD CRACKING. *SC

Mac

Col

· #13 · Sep 13, 2010

englishdan said:
- after she said 'no there is no such recall or TSB 166'

Special Action Bulletin D166 Issued 7th March 2005. Consists of 5 Pages and includes a couple of photos.

Cheers

Gagamac

· #14 · Sep 13, 2010

Exhaust & Emissions: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:EXHAUST SYSTEM:MANIFOLD/HEADER/MUFFLER/TAIL PIPE
Service Bulletin Number: 166
NHTSA Number: 10016659
Model Years Affected: 2000, 2001
Date of Bulletin: 09/2005
Bulletin Summary: RECALL ACTION-RIGHT SIDE EXHAUST MANIFOLD CRACKING.

Mac

Col

· #15 · Sep 13, 2010

5

Is this of any help?

Cheers

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englishdan

· #16 · Sep 13, 2010

Thankyou all!

Per the proceedure I will go and check to see if it is magnetic at all and if it is, I will arm myself with a printout of all this and go to see the service manager.

I really appreciate the scans of the 166 recall Col, I expect it will be pretty irrefutable when I go off to the stealership.

I will post and let you all know how I get on.

Cheers,
Dan

englishdan

· #17 · Sep 13, 2010

As a side note... I notice on the TSB it mentions ordering head bolts, head gaskets etc etc.. Why?? I certainly don't want them messing with mine, I only just rebuilt the entire engine from a bare block! I know it took me a little longer than the 2hrs or so allowed for this TSB!

Dan

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vmystikilv

· #18 · Sep 13, 2010

PRETTY!!!!!!!!!

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