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I was over there a year ago and, yes, some of them do drive that way. If he was pulled over he would most likely flick the policeman a few thousand roubles (or a few hundred dollars) and go on his merry way. Of course if he is so rich he is most likely ´connected´ with the right people and so any prosecution or fine could be made to ´go away´.

Here is a snippet of info that will make you crazy. If there is an accident then none of the vehicles involved can move from the scene of impact. And I mean not even move off the road if it is a minor touching of bumpers and a broken tail-light. Even if it blocks both lanes of a main road in the rush hour - NO BODY CAN MOVE! As I understand it if a vehicle moves then they can be prosecuted. And if a rich person or some official is involved then there is a good chance that the other vehicle involved will be seen as at fault - even if they are stationary and hit from behind by a drunk.

This driving style (in the video) doesn´t go for all their drivers - just the ones with money or in positions where they can get away with it. I heard many other stories (from a reliable source) while there that would make you think twice about living or working there. They don´t relate to this forum so I won´t elaborate at this stage.
 

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Rowant said:
This driving style (in the video) doesn´t go for all their drivers - just the ones with money or in positions where they can get away with it. ....
ah, the many benefits of socialism :)
 

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shupack said:
too bad about the music, I would've liked to hear that engine roaring... other than that, putz.
The music certainly explains alot. :roll:
 

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There are pointless videos in this world & then there is this...

So besides a ridiculous amount of lane changes, it hardly shows excellent performance from the vehicle. Which still blows my mind people still think RR is just for off road. LR has not been about only off-road in over 20 yrs, it's on-road abilities have been the subject of multi-million $$$ of R&D. But whatever, I guess thast's the fantasy many live. Ironically, the truest of LRs off-road vehicles, the Defenders, is looked down by many a RRC driver as being "too utilitarian" & "not comfy enough". Like really? :snooty:

It doesn't even seem he was going above 50mph for more than a couple of bursts in the crowded streets. Please I've seen and done crazier stuff in my heyday, sh%t even in my RRS I tore up the highway doing real performance driving (>90mph, lane changes, etc).

I can only imagine what the other RR drivers were thinking; "young putz, wannabe gangster American".
 

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Why is it because the vehicles are now more aerodynamic, attract people that'll never take them on even a gravel driveway, That we think these vehicles r not still the best production 4x4s? A 2010 will still kick ass off road compared to any other production vehicle. It'll also kick ass on road too IMHO. Don't forget our western experiences don't dictate this vehicles typical use. In Asia, Africa, south america etc these are being used as they were designed. 24/7

The new rr have more technology designed to traverse the off road extremes than the classics p38 defenders & series put together. I think we get to influenced by the new generation owner & think the vehicle has been watered down off rd to enhance on rd. Ask any of the guys who actually use theirs off rd. We still have a dirt beast for those brave enough to take em there.
 

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Opinions differ of course. But the main reason for why I don't think the later Range Rovers aren't as good off road as their predecessors is the suspension. Independent suspension makes better on road handling, takes less space etc., but IMHO not as good off road. And again, that might not apply to all situations; might event be better in some, but definately not as good for the situations I know and use my Range Rovers for.

It also makes modifications more difficult and regarding the mods we make up here, extremely difficult to put proper size of tyres under the new RR (with unibody and ind. susp.) ;-)

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It also makes modifications more difficult and regarding the mods we make up here, extremely difficult to put proper size of tyres under the new RR (with unibody and ind. susp.) ;-)

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:lol: `) :clap:
 

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But the main reason for why I don't think the later Range Rovers aren't as good off road as their predecessors is the suspension. Independent suspension makes better on road handling, takes less space etc., but IMHO not as good off road.
You know its crosslinked don't you?
It behaves like a beam axle when off-road.
 

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I think the big thing preventing people taking the newer RRs offroad isn't so much the lack of ability, but rather the cost of them. If you damage your Classic, or P38, its a lot cheaper to repair/replace than a 2010 RR. I know that if I had a shiny new 2010 RRS i'd think twice before squeezing it down a narrow bush track (eeek pinstriping), or thrashing it around in a mud hole.
 

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But the relative cost (adjusted for inflation, etc) of p38 & rrc were about the same no? But people took em off rd back when they were new. I think it's more the demographic that's changed more than the truck (although the truck has changed as well to meet expectation & demand).

Oh & to my NATO alliance, we r totally in agreement. U can't mod the new ones like the old ones, but the argument was on it's ability straight out of the shop & I believe the 2010 r more capable compared to any rr (stock) or any other production truck past or present.
 

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Tim (Scotland) said:
You know its crosslinked don't you?
It behaves like a beam axle when off-road.
I know. Makes it better. Still don't think it's as good as the older ones off road. But of course 'a little less good than the older ones' does not mean it's bad. :)

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I think the big thing preventing people taking the newer RRs offroad isn't so much the lack of ability, but rather the cost of them. If you damage your Classic, or P38, its a lot cheaper to repair/replace than a 2010 RR. I know that if I had a shiny new 2010 RRS i'd think twice before squeezing it down a narrow bush track (eeek pinstriping), or thrashing it around in a mud hole.
If you can really afford your RR then you can afford to use it on and off road. If you have too much money you can afford to misuse it on and off road.;-)

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If you can really afford your RR then you can afford to use it on and off road. If you have too much money you can afford to misuse it on and off road.;-)

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sorry but that's a pretty illogical statement. Just because I can afford to own a $109k truck or 2 hardly means I want it all banged up & in the shop. Especially when I can get a defender, lr3-4-5 (or whatever) or even some other 4x4 wannabe & just mod it.

I think most people who make $$$ don't like to abuse their assets, especially if it looks good.

Maybe it's cultural, but just my $.02
 

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Sorry about my English there, maybe I should have used 'abuse' instead of 'misuse'.

when I've used my Range Rovers properly (off road) I've never damaged them. I have however abused them quite a few times, causing some damage in some cases and sometimes cost me some money (the small dents have not been expensive as I haven't fixed them ;-) ).

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We should channel all this hate towards a common good. Like bashing Toyota. :thumb:
 

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No hate here @ all. Th & I just sl disagree on the modern rr's owner & the vehicles abilities.
Sorry doc can't bash Toyota. Land Cruiser is still a respectable beast & quite honestly if/when Im overseas i'd rather it's reliability in the bush than my rover.
 
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