[simonjanssen]

Hello Everybody

Recently i forgot the lights.
After hours i went to the car and i could open it anymore with the keyfob.
With the key i couuld go into the car. When i tried to start the engine the alarm filled the neighbourhood of our friends.
It also gave very short message about i guess "key numbers" .
To stop the alarm i had to discoonect the batterie completely.
But i could not open the tailgate to get my tools.....
The tailgate needs more current then there was available. Als i could not get to my starter cables because of that tailgate lock problem.
It took much more time the get things going again.
question: how can i get the tailgate unlocked, when there is to littel curren to unlock electrically?

simon janssen
holland

 

[kmagnuss]

IIRC, you can't.

 

[scimitargtc]

jump leads in 'boot' - lift parcel shelf to get them? buy cheap cig lighter to cig lighter lead and stuff it in the glove box and use it to push enough volts into the batt to enable hatch / start car --- if need be use a croc clip to 12v cig socket that you can plug the lead into and tap onto a spare batt ---- as they say preparation is key (but there again I've never been locked out!) 8~

 

[dutchfrompredator]

why not just jumper some juice from a good battery? my busted-ass '02 that needs a top end rebuild has a disconnected optima i used to run, sitting in the battery tray. whenever i work on her and need to open the tailgate i just slide the cables onto the connectors. then take 'em off when i'm done.

 

[p38arover]

According to Andrew E who wrecks P38As, you unbolt the lock catches from each side of the tailgate. Yes, I'm told you can get in there with a thin spanner.

 

[Scotty]

Climb in the back wiggle the carpet from the tailgate out from under the molding the pull both rods in toward the center.. PRESTO

 

[kmagnuss]

Nice... I'm glad this topic came up. I'm SURE I'll run into this at some point.

 

[p38arover]

I have - many times. Usaully after I've disconnected the battery to do some work and found I needed to get into the back of the car.

At least in that case I can reconnect the battery.

 

[N2O]

Why not simply fold rear seats?
:mrgreen:

 

[simonjanssen]

Hi

I did fold the rearseats (of course).
Then is is still a very big tour to get to the spare wheel spece, where my tools are.

simon janssen
holland

 

[simonjanssen]

hello scotty
i will try to follow your advise

simon janssen
holland

 

[simonjanssen]

hi

I followed scotties advise and went ons step further.
I constructed a mechanical tailgate opener. Just connected a firm rope to the mechanism. Drilled a small hole in the lower tailgate unit.
Connected the rope with a unit, which i can push into the hole and which i can pull out when there is trouble. It works fine, its easy and cheap.
When i have my battery down again, i fold one of the back, i will go into the boot and pull the unit/rope.And than i can get to my tools, which are
near the spare wheel.

simon janssen
holland

someone interested in the constructios, send me a mail and i mail you three clear photographs.
[email protected]

 

[*-jester-*]

I had a similar problem a few months back except, it wasn't until I had a totally flat battery that I realilsed the the drivers door lock didn't work with the key! :roll:

The predicament..
Battery flat
Remote won't work (obviously because of flat battery)
Key lock mechanism broken
Can't get in car
Can't open the bonnet
Can't even open the tailgate to get to any tools

I was just about to take a brick to a window of choice when I had a brainwave (surprising I know! 8-0= ) ...My truck has towing electrics for a caravan and I remembered that one of the pins (pin#4 thanks google) is a permanent 12v 15Amp supply so with the aid of a grey 12s plug from the local caravan store I simply wired my battery charger to the 12s plug (pin#3 is earth) and 'hey presto' [s:8gqxorkz]enough power to open the tailgate and get my trusty hammer to brake the window![/s:8gqxorkz] JOKE! ...enough power to blip the remote and get inside to open the bonnet & jump start. :dance:

Personally I think that the lack of key lock on the tailgate is a ludicrous idea!

 

[BargePilot]

This brilliant idea should go on the main site.

 

[LarryS]

i think someone mentioned it already, if you can get 12v to fuse F15 (20Amp) on the BeCM (it is on mine) then hit the tailgate button and as long as the ground path is ok (which i think ends in the front door locks, as in not locked) it will pop open. Of course if you've got 12volts handy...maybe it defeats the object slightly, but you might have a 12v cordless drill/tool with a removable battery pack.
But that is an excellent idea jester, i have towing electrics as well but would never have thought of that.

 

[paul.adshead]

The 'Standard' trailer plug doesn't have battery feed - only the 'Auxillary' (2nd) trailer plug has a battery feed. Also, you can always just crawl underneath and jumper 12V onto the big pin on the starter motor, ground can be found anywhere.

 

[*-jester-*]

The 'Standard' trailer plug doesn't have battery feed - only the 'Auxillary' (2nd) trailer plug has a battery feed.

That's correct, that is why I said the 12s caravan electrics socket, i.e. the one used to charge the caravan battery and power the fridge etc.

 

[LarryS]

ahh...i read them as being one and the same, clearly their not.

 

[rallymania]

Hi all i am a newbie here, I just change my head cylinder for my 2.5 dse rangie 1996 UK model, the car sat for a month so battery was flat, but after the head cylinder was sorted out, i am faced with strange electrical probs, the tail gate wont open but all doors open on remote command, no release sound at the tailgate, the passenger rear interior light come on when doors are opened, and cant be turned off, the front interior light, the middle one by the sunroof hatch don't work at all, but the two side once do, but on pressed it the light comes up but dims and also the same passenger rear interior light, light comes up too and dims, when i close the driver door the passenger rear interior light stays on and goes off after 20 secs but whiles the light is onn the remote don't work until the light goes off. and i have to be very close to the car for the remote to work, the strangest thing though, despite the tailgate wont open, when i press the tailgate switch out side i can see the passenger rear interior light, lights up on demand. after i jail broke the tailgate through the truck, i have check every thing on the tailgate they all working. but i am now jacked as to where to turn for help, any advice? there is power in fuse 15 and 14, all suggestions welcomed. Thanks
best
Nana