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Anyone have any suggestions? Just did about 600 miles and from a comfy ride and capability standpoint i really like the rover - but...

1 - can one override the computers 30MPH setting on the highest suspension settings? This is annoying for me, i can understand not letting people ride at 50 MPH+ at this setting, but it takes too long to go up once the thing is down if you find a stretch that you can go a little faster in.

2 - plastic panels on the bottom are put on with those silly plastic clips - passengers side front one came off in water twice for me and the drivers rear area popped out when i bounced off a rock a little - will have to see how i get that one back in. I understand maybe having that plastic down there for easy replacement - but come on - plastic interior panel press fit clips??

3 - it takes too long to go from low to high suspension mode.....

4 - GPS is worthless off road outside showing me the cords and elevation. I have the MKIV bmw upgraded nav with the latest maps.

Other than these little things the rig worked great - one thing i want to get is some easy way to get to the roof rack outside standing on the tire or top of the seat. Is there a step or ladder for the MKIII?

Will post pics of the trip once i get back home - going back in tomorrow for a few more trails.

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try MANTECH for the wheel step im sure they do one.
 

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Worthington.

Check out these genuine Land Rover side protection tubes ? They're listed for sale from USD$200 on http://www.trademe.co.nz down-under that solves both problems !

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That annoying limit of 30 MPH in the highest suspension setting is kind of integral to keeping the thing off it's roof as it is not stable at that height at speed. The suspension is slow to raise and lower, but keep in mind it is lifting several thousand pounds.
 

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thanks guys - roof ladder i found here will be what i will look at: http://www.roverracks.com/MKIII_Range_Rover_Ladder.htm

Also - i saw the nz dealer selling those sliders - and they are a great price - Mike there at Archibalds Motors Ltd was extremely helpful and gracious enough to get a shipping quote - about 1,000 NZD to get them shipped to my door..... A little steep.

Any one know of a decent aftermarket - not to obtrusive set of sliders like the stock - VUB002510 - ? Or anyone know a way to get those bars from NZ to the us for low $$$ ? :D

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If you are going to use your RR for serious off-roading, you will need to set it up correctly. Find a local fabricator and have a true set of rock sliders custom built for your truck. The NZ sliders would work for most people, but they are not sliders, they side steps. Just take a look at how they connect. You will also need skid plates, proper bumpers, a winch and better tires, or at least a second set of wheels with more aggressive tires.

If you go to an independent shop, you can have your EAS settings reprogrammed to allow additional height adjustments. Don't take this wrong, but if you really need to drive faster than 30 MPH on a trail, you will end up having more problems than constantly adjusting the ride height. You can also swap the air bags out for a set of springs, and pretty much get any height you want. But, that will affect other areas, drive lines, castor angles, shocks and design changes to your control and trailing arms.

There have been a few MK3's that have been build for real off-roading, you may want to find some of the old magazine articles that described their changes. I have been on a couple trails with an 03 that was build back in 04, it did very well on the trails and rocks.
 

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If you are going to use your RR for serious off-roading, you will need to set it up correctly. Find a local fabricator and have a true set of rock sliders custom built for your truck. The NZ sliders would work for most people, but they are not sliders, they side steps. Just take a look at how they connect. You will also need skid plates, proper bumpers, a winch and better tires, or at least a second set of wheels with more aggressive tires.

If you go to an independent shop, you can have your EAS settings reprogrammed to allow additional height adjustments. Don't take this wrong, but if you really need to drive faster than 30 MPH on a trail, you will end up having more problems than constantly adjusting the ride height. You can also swap the air bags out for a set of springs, and pretty much get any height you want. But, that will affect other areas, drive lines, castor angles, shocks and design changes to your control and trailing arms.

There have been a few MK3's that have been build for real off-roading, you may want to find some of the old magazine articles that described their changes. I have been on a couple trails with an 03 that was build back in 04, it did very well on the trails and rocks.

Dont speak of that sin in this house of the holy EAS. You will be struck down, you must repent!

:lol:

WTF would you go to a set of crappy springs when you can lift the EAS? Springs suck, they ride bad, they dont level, and offroad they cant flex like EAS.

First things first, buy a welder. Do alttle research and fab your own sliders. No only will you save a ton of money you can also build skid plates, rear tire swing, and a winch mount for the front. I would just trim the factory bumpers and use the wiring for the foglights to wire up a pair of KC's on the winch mount.

Next is buy some M/T's. They arent noisey or whatever bs people whine about. When it comes down to it, A/T's are no better than street tread. Dont skimp on the spare either, Whats another $200 when you are already spending $800+??

Besure to buy some real recoverey equipment. Snatch strap, chains, d-rings, shovel, air compressor, and a hi-lift.

Snorkel should be on the list aswell. Not just for water crossings but to cut down on dust/water in the filter.

Last thing I would do is convert to springs. Might as well have bought a Jeep Wrangler.
 

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Yup - that's why i bought the rover - EAS is very nice - guys with me had jeeps and i went everywhere they did - one rode with me from then on they called me mr. smooth ride and understood how i was flying on the washboard without my fillings falling out.

Also all 4 corners now have arnotts in them - lifetime warranty. I am running the new cooper LTZ's on a spare set of wheels. The tires did everything i needed them to - including some rock step ups about 25 - 30 inches - they gripped well. We didn't hit any mud of any consequence, but i can say that everyone was impressed with the tires. and oddly enough they are quieter than the toyo street tires.

I just want to bump the EAS high setting to 35 MPh or 40 - and also remove the annoying ring sound when it gets close to the top speed in the highest setting. Will see if i can get this done.

Yes - a welder would be a nice tool - i was just hoping for a low cost alternative i could bolt on. I think those rover factory "nerf" style bars would be perfect for me - i just want a little protection on the side from rocks sticking out of the ground. Right now not planning on needing the aggressive rock climbing that will need the traditional sliders.

GPS - i found a great site that i can get all the NA off road maps for free - so garmin nuvi it is when i am off road.

I with someone that has the recovery winch and carry the other items with me - i do want to get the 12K winch, but thats not in the budget until next year.

As for skid plates - where are people putting thes on the MKIII? I have a hard time locating them as well - most of the parts are well tucked under the rover from what i can tell. Isn't that why they made the thing for off road in the first place :) so you don't have to buy all that stuff because you paid 100k!
 

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JHepworth - where are you located?

If socal, are you John? Hockey Player?

Anyway, if SoCal, my fabricator can set you up with sliders - he did mine, along with my rear bumper. I'm taking my 03 back to him next week for front skid plate, air tank skid plate and a couple other little things.

Here's my FLIKR photostream for the Rover: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157623211162604/

Check out my rover.
 

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Worth-any-thing.

I've got a wholesale Fedex account if you're interested in the N.Z. option, including a "Trademe" presence so just PM off-line for details and I'll see if I can assist !

Just give me the dimensions, dead weight, address of Achibald's and your home address Stateside so we can provide an accurate figure in respect to freighting ?

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LTZ's are a good tire, good man getting the spare matching.


As for your going fast than 35mph. I think its way to fast for the trails but if thats what you want I am sure someone with testbook can override the warning. Dealer wont do it so you need to make buddy with a indie.

Those sliders are ok but after you drop nearly a grand to get them and ship them you could have bought a welder used off craigslist and enough steel for the sliders, tire carrier, and winch mount.

As far as skid plates, if you plan your route through stuff and move big sticks and dont do stupid sh*t you should be fine.
 

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Worth-e-thang !

Have a look at these "Nerf bars" I saw listed on http://www.trademe.co.nz which are being custom made by this crowd in the "land of the long white shroud" dude.

Gives you some ideas on the 'rock-sliders' route as discussed by several forum members, but hey if you're going to go hardcore with the FFRR-than knock yourself ?

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Heres alittle secret. Those are the ARB sliders
 

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I Must say this board is awesome - Thanks much Dr. Brabyn.

jdholder - i am in boise idaho - lots of great places here to take this thing around here... Just need to keep the cb or sat phone with you as you never know when you will get stuck a long ways from anywhere.

i will try not to do stupid stuff - my indie says the skid plates given the tucked under nature of these things are only if you want to charge at things - i don't do that - i go fast on the access roads, but the trails i know to take it easy.

Will hit up the fedex wholesale account as well as look into the fabricator in socal - how much did those run you?

Thanks again everyone. Will be posting the trail pics soon.

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Those sliders are ok but after you drop nearly a grand to get them and ship them you could have bought a welder used off craigslist and enough steel for the sliders, tire carrier, and winch mount.

As far as skid plates, if you plan your route through stuff and move big sticks and dont do stupid sh*t you should be fine.
Dr. Leo... You are kidding right? That may work in the flat, sandy soil in Florida, or on forest service roads, but not in Idaho or many places out west. If you are going to do anything technical or on the rocks, you better protect your truck.

Since you are in Idaho, contact some of western rover fabricators and have them set you up with the components you need, for the type of trails you plan on riding. Check out www.roverhybrids.com, www.rockware.net, www.rovertym.com and www.outbackoffroadcenter.com. Outback off road set up an 03 back in 03/04 with skid plates, sliders, winch bumpers and other off-road gear, call and talk with Joey.
 

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Dont speak of that sin in this house of the holy EAS. You will be struck down, you must repent!

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WTF would you go to a set of crappy springs when you can lift the EAS? Springs suck, they ride bad, they dont level, and offroad they cant flex like EAS.

First things first, buy a welder. Do alttle research and fab your own sliders. No only will you save a ton of money you can also build skid plates, rear tire swing, and a winch mount for the front. I would just trim the factory bumpers and use the wiring for the foglights to wire up a pair of KC's on the winch mount.

Snorkel should be on the list aswell. Not just for water crossings but to cut down on dust/water in the filter.

Last thing I would do is convert to springs. Might as well have bought a Jeep Wrangler.[/quote]


I just re-read your other post... Clearly, you do not know very much about off-roading. Springs do not suck, they are significantly more flexible than any EAS system. Sure, the EAS provides some clear benefits on the road, like lowering the front end at highway speeds, and the ability to raise the truck when doing light off-roading, even balancing the load when towing or hauling heavy payloads. But, they do not provide the same benefits as a good set of springs. Plus, spings can't be punctured by a stick, like an air bag.

Additionally, you can not use your factory fog light wiring to run a set of KC's, Hella or Lightforce lights. The aftermarket lights will burn up the factory switch and wiring. A relay must be properly installed to handle the increased load the real off-road lights provide.

A snorkel is a pointless addition to a gas motor, it offers no benefit in water crossings, but it looks adventurous. It may provide some cooler air or additional filtering to the motor. A quality pre-filter needs to be added to achieve any noticeable difference.
 

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Clealy you no nothing of off-roading and EAS. A propperly cross link EAS will have atleast 4 more inchs of travel than a pair of springs. The odds of you punchuring a airbag are pretty slim aswell.

The factory wiring will support a set of after market lights that are 55watts or less, what do you think the fogs are?

A snorkel is very useful. Its been proven time after time that a snorkel reduces water and dust injestion. A snorkel isnt for crossing deep water. When you splash water up in a crossing it keeps you from soaking your filter, keeps mud out, and dust when in a convoy.

Do alittle research and you will learn alittle. Then roll down to the classic forum and take a peak at my truck and my multible pictures of my Classic in action.
 

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the armotts i picked up - the rubber on those look and feel like it would take a very sharpe metal blade to poke into them... However the factory bags from my fronts looked - on a scale from 1 - 10 - about a 3 in thickness and toughness - arnotts being about a 9.5. However i am not a rubber expert ( at least not this type :) and i can say that it would be tough to get something way up there into those bags...
 

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Doctor Leo, where does one obtain a snorkel for a MkIII? I haven't seen one marketed.
 

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Doctor Leo, where does one obtain a snorkel for a MkIII? I haven't seen one marketed.

You have to build it. Order a snorkel head off ebay, go to a local plastic suplie company. They will have extra thick pvc pipe and flex tubing. You fill the pvc with sand and gentle heat it to bend it into the propper shape. You use the flex tbing to plumb it into the air intake. It will look very professional if you take your time shaping the pvc. All in all figure $100 for materals.
 
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