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jwest, I appreciate your posts here. I had a Disco 1 until a few months ago. It was completely setup for offroad, and I used it extensively that way. My next rig is a 4x4 Sportsmobile.

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last one on this forum side: oh never mind.
 

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Jeffrey said:
continually bash other forum members with your comments
You're the one that came into this thread and pompously stated your pseudo-amazement that us SC users were naive enough to think that our truck could go offroad. You're also the only person to continually scoff at any thread that deals with 22" wheels, color coding, aftermarket grills, etc.

I appreciate your humor and utilitarian bend towards land rovers, but this thread is obviously not the right place for someone with your views. I find it hard to believe that there's not even a tiny part of your traditionalist personality that's perturbed LR's hottest model (ever?) is a street truck.

And fwiw, I placate my my 'need for speed' with a 640 horse blown Z06 - Thanks for your concern. :?

....still interested to hear some member feedback on this new tire....
 

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Folks, a lot of this thread will have to be deleted if you don't stop trading insults -- please keep the tone of the conversation up to our usual standards!

Cheers

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so on a lighter note................

the Cooper tires came in today 275/45/20 and the tread looks really nice and aggressive
i will post some pictures on Wednesday and have them instaled some time this week.
 

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so the big day has finally come.
i had the new Cooper tires instaled today on my Stormers. these tires look's awsome on this truck!!! they have a nice rugged look but does not take anything away from the beauty of the Sport. if anything i think it adds a really nice look to it. i cant wait to take them to the beach or on a trail. (and yes i know they are not a "real" off road tire ) but i still think they look great.
so far my only feedback is that they are suprisingly quite on the highway at 80-90 MPH
and that the installers loved the way it looked.
here are a bunch of pics i took today shortly after the install.
if anybody has any questions about these please let me know and i will do my best to answer them.


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That looks the business, redmann! I bet you'll get lots of looks on road and lots of good use off it. Short of going w/ 19s and megabucks GY MT/Rs from Europe, that's probably the best (the only?) all terrain tire I have seen for the S/C Sport. In fact, that tread looks more aggressive than my 18s. Well done, have mucho fun with them.
 

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Your truck looks GREAT! No I want to get that same setup for my daily driver set of rims! Great Job!!!

Do you know how many plys the sidewalls are? Only Poly or steel as well? Check the writing on the sidewalls. I saw 3 Nitto's go out on the trail last time I was out and got kinda nerviouse about them...
 

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Very ironic.... I had this exact tire 'test fit' onto my Vesu today.
I can't decide what to do...

Follow Redmanns' example,
or
Get some 19's/MTR
or
Continue to (fruitlessly thus far) search for a way to get 18's around my brakes.

I've talked with about every wheel place in the world, so far no dice with 18's. Even looking into have some blanks fab'd up and drilled out for our somewhat 'rare' 5x120 pattern.
Suggestions?
 

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I tried 18"s on my supercharged full size RR last fall and found that they ...almost... fit. They (2006 USA LR3 spec 10 spoke) were basically short of flush mount by 1/4" on 1/2 of the bolt flange area. Soooo, I wondered, but never tried, having a performance shop carefully grind a bit of the excess caliper body off. I was in mechanical engineering for a while so my hunch is 'maybe'. I would bet that the calipers are well overengineered allowing a smidgen to come off without affecting the cooling and stress transfer rates. It's not like you are running your car on the track with super intense braking. I'd think the brembos could handle quite a lot before coming anywhere near their mechanical limits.
The area touching was like the area of one of your knuckles when making a fist and then touching a fairly shallow concave surface like the inside of the rim.

An auto racing specialist shop would be my first to propose it to though.

Who knows, maybe Brembo has a caliper that is lower profile.
 

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Umberto - I saw on the UK forum where you suggested the 285/50-20 Cooper. Will that rub/hit during full articulation?
Factory Conti diameter is 28.7, my 285/35-22's are 29.9 diameter... but those 285 Coopers are are 31.2! Think it'll work?
 

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Umberto - I saw on the UK forum where you suggested the 285/50-20 Cooper. Will that rub/hit during full articulation?
Factory Conti diameter is 28.7, my 285/35-22's are 29.9 diameter... but those 285 Coopers are are 31.2! Think it'll work?
Diameter would not be a problem - my 285/60 18s are 31.5" and fit the wells with virtually zero rubbing, except a real minor "brush" in the rear wheel well under full compression. But earlier on this same thread jwest suggested the offset width of the 285/50 mounted over a wider 20" alloy rim may be too much, causing rubbing against the strut that sits inside the wheel. That's his experience on his LR3, anyway. I am not convinced and think it would be a close call either way... It would be ideal if someone with 20s could actually test drive such a plus size before giving up on it...
 

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Very nice Redmann...next time I'm back in Boston/NH...we'll definitely have to do some runs up there. The rig is looking very sharp...beautiful pictures.

I could swear that road where you took the pictures looks almost exactly like where my sister/brother in law live in NH...but I would have seen your Vesuvius there if that were the case.

Nice choice for the 20's...just remember to air down a little on the sand if you are going into deep sand, but not so much that those nice stormers get chewed up.

How about some shots from Cape Cod next time... - recreating Bill Burke's "Getting Unstuck" training! :D :D
 

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JWest- Where are you finding "19 MTR for $800-$1000 ??

Redman- Those tires look great , while not a serious off road tire they will be a huge improvment from your street tires in snow, and light mud and pretty much anykind of off road situation. When I originally went from street tires to my terra grapplers the improvment was extrmely noticable and the Terra Grapplers are somewhat similar to these Coopers ...

Please post an update on them after you get them a little dirty
 

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JWest- Where are you finding "19 MTR for $800-$1000 ??
Yeah, last time I checked, and that was well over a year ago, the cost of a set of 5 MTRs (delivered) was closer to 2Ks, by the time you figured exchange rate and ridiculous shipping fees. Plus, they weren't even available in Europe for a long while! I imagine the fact that the US$ is worth less than toilet paper versus most foreign currencies these days is not going to make things any better...
 

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Those tires look awsome on there, Now only if we can get a nice tire for our 19". I was lucky with a not so snowy winter, hopefully they (anyone) will come out with a 19" tire for us before winter again. Or mabey Ill have to buy some stormers and 20" coopers or something good like that. :lol:
 

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Some wheel shop has got to be able to make a set of 18 inch steel wheels that will fit around the brembos. It might require some adjustment to the caliper or something but if the 18 inch LR3 wheels almost fit then some steel wheels with the right machining might fit.
 
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