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Long time browser, first time poster:

I think a cap fell off my P38 2000 Range Rover. I found a hole missing a cap. Only problem, the cap appears to be too big for the hole. I tried putting it in the hole, multiple times, it's about 1/4" to wide on the diameter. Help please.

Please let me know if I'm going to die if I drive this thing with the cap off (and what this does!).

I am a range rover idiot, and I really know very little about this vehicle in general.

Thanks in advance,
Dave


Top side of mystery cap:
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Bottom side of mystery cap:
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Hole under P38:
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Hole from different angle:
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Hole in side of this structure:
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Hole from yet another angle:
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It's the rubber bung that covers the hole that is there so you can get to the flex plate bolts when you want to separate the engine and gearbox. It goes into the hole shown in your 3rd, 4th and last pictures.
 

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Apparently, this rubber material absorbs fluids and gradually grows over time. I've had the same problem with mine. Only remedy is to buy a brand new cap. You'll be surprised how small the original one is compared to the one you have now.
 

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Temporarily, solvent-clean around the hole and cover it with cloth tape/ gaffer taper to keep road crap out while you source a new part. As a industrial part, it's called a 'rubber bung'...it likely is a standard-sized industrial part available from places that specialise in rubber profiles, grommets, O-rings etc. Measure the diameter of the hole and the thickness of the metal to order.
 

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@neilfixes Thanks! I will try and do that. @Richard_G lrcat is awesome (found many other parts), but I cannot find the 'rubber bung' anywhere (I tried under both version of gearbox for P38, in the engine, driveshaft, I don't see the cap anywhere, but then again, it's my first time using the site, so maybe I'm blind, or looking for the wrong item).
 

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Welcome Shrink,
Like TheoR said, they swell up and will not go back in their hole. I replaced mine from Atlantic British, now $17.70 off of eBay.


Genuine Land Rover ERR7229 Rear Oil Pan Grommet
eBay item number: 391323642977

New one went right in. You do want to cover the hole to keep trash out.
Good luck & enjoy.
 

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Yes, sometimes things aren't always where you expect them to be, but that one is easy, Engine, V8, G02205 Sump and there it is.
 

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Thank you everyone for all your help. For completeness, here's some photos of the old and new "bungs", along with the newly plugged hole. Weird the giant rubber cover was in the same spot for so many years.

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Glad to see it worked out. What I would call a Stopper or a Plug, the Brits call a Bung. A Bung-le for the jungle? Thanks Richard for telling the purpose. I thought they were inspection holes on both sides. Didn't realize they were the access to flex plate bolts.
 

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A GEMS has a pressed steel sump and an alloy cover over the bottom of the flywheel which you can just take off but the Thor has a cast sump with that cover as part of the sump. So without the access hole you'd not be able to remove the engine without removing the gearbox too.
 

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I’ve been driving mine for 5 years without them, the chances of anything going in there is remote to say the least, if you off road then yes I see them being necessary
 

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If you do take your P38 off road, check to make sure you have these bungs for your holes.

Took my inspection plate off today to find a solid circular brick of dried mud covering the inspection hole about an inch thick. Poked through that and scraped out loads of mud, tiny pebbles and crap. Probably explains the inconsistent weird starting issue I've been having. Turns out one bung was missing.

All cleaned out now with two new bungs on order. Thanks Vancer & Shrinkingmedic, I wouldn't even have thought to look if it wasn't for this thread.
 
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