[fisha]

In my 2002 HSE, I currently have the basic LCD unit ( MID ) in the dash and a single slot CD above it, a multichanger CD player in the glove box, the basic power amp ( not DSP amp ) in the boot and the mid-line speaker setup ( i.e. door speakers + tweeters + centre dash speaker )

The LCD pixels on the MID are gubbed as per normal. Now, I could just have them repaired, but I was wondering whether I could swap out the front units for the early multifunction display ( MFD ).

Now, in my MID based system, the FM radio is housed in the single slot CD player currently in the dash. In the MFD setup, the radio is a completely separate unit ( BM54 ) that sits in the boot. If I wanted to have the radio, then normally I would have to buy the MFD and the radio unit plus the new loom which all equals £££ - especially the radio.

But...

What if i re-located the single slot CD unit to the glove box and kept the existing wires running to it - that way I still have the radio functions ( and the CD i suppose ). Would I be able to then take the MID unit out as well and simply replace the whole centre bit with the MFD ? I could unplug the connector on the MID, and plug it into the MFD. Do you think that would work?

As I understand it, all the parts talk via the iBus system, and essentially that works by the MID or MFD asking "who's there?" and depending on the reply, it will then provide the functions on the menus as per the replies it gets ( i.e., if no cd changer replies, then it doesn't show any options for it, if there is a reply, then it will show options )

So if i keep my single slot CD+radio connected up in the glove box, and plug the MFD into the iBus system, do you think it would see the radio, single CD, multichanger and work as normal. That way I can have all the functions ( other than Nav ) via more reliable TFT display instead of the pixel popping crap I have the moment.

Here is a typical MID unit connector

and here is a MFD connector:

looks like the white one should work.


not sure about the blue ... would that be for NAV stuff ?


anyone think it would work ?

 

[Mattstevenson2005]

Sorry to say but it won't work as the MFD screen is just that, the screen, the user interface comes from the nav computer MK3/MK4 that lives in the rear compartment also the complete wiring loom is different on the HSE spec (non screen) and on the VOGUE spec (with screen)

Matt

 

[Stevemfr]

Actually, the MFD being for the nav, etc, wouldn't even make the difference as I_Bus input commands are generic as are the display commands - so, in theory, fisha is absolutely right and the MFD volume should control the volume just as with the MID and the MFD should display info same as the MID.


Only it doesn't. I tried it. :?

 

[Mattstevenson2005]

Actually, the MFD being for the nav, etc, wouldn't even make the difference as I_Bus input commands are generic as are the display commands - so, in theory, fisha is absolutely right and the MFD volume should control the volume just as with the MID and the MFD should display info same as the MID.


Only it doesn't. I tried it. :?

You would still be able to control the volume of the system etc.. You just won't get anything on the screen as the screen only outputs the display of the nav computer and nothing else.

Matt

 

[Stevemfr]

No, the nav computer just translates for the screen. And, in theory, it shouldn't matter whether the radio info is coming on the I-Bus from a BM54 or a CD54.
You can not control the volume and you do not see anything from the radio on the screeen, tho. Trust me. I've actually tried.

 

[fisha]

Its a pity it wont work. I think the reality is I'll leave it as is for the moment. Steve, as per the fullfat forum, thanks for the offer, but the conversion would be too much as an upgrade to the car for my needs. I was hoping whether just the MFD would be all thats needed. I'd rather spend the money on other things which would make me smile

like exhaust diverters ..... :twisted: