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Mailman's Off Road Build and Adventure Thread

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Hey everyone,

I've been around for a while and have been wanting to put this together, but I wanted to have a few more things to start it all off with. The point of this thread will be to capture maintenance, mods, and all the off road fun I have with my 2010 HSE, as well as help answer questions about my rig or just talk about offroading in general. The goal with this truck is all about offroading, but it does also do daily driving duties as well. I am located up in New Hampshire and belong to a 4x4 club, so most of my adventures will be on public, unmaintained Class VI (NH) or Class IV (VT) roads, hopefully the North Maine Woods, and any private property that my club has access to. My big goal (whether it happens with this rig or the next) is to do the Trans America Trail, but that is a long-term one that I want to do with the family when the kids are old enough to appreciate it.

Mods completed so far:
  • ProSpeed sump guard
  • ProSpeed rock sliders
  • Goodyear Wrangler Adventure AT in 255/65/19 (32in tires)
  • Frontrunner roof rack

There are lots of rocks poking out everywhere up in the Northeast and trails are tight, so having as much underbody protection as possible is absolutely a requirement if you want to wheel as hard as possible without worrying about bashing a rock. ProSpeed says the sump guard doesn't fit but Lucky8 said they had fitted them to the 4.4L Jag motors, and I had no problems fitting it to my 5.0L. I will say it was a very tight fit and everything just barely came together. They also say they don't fit the supercharged motors, but as far as I can tell, many of the same part numbers for the 5.0L NA and S/C seem to be the same, but I can't say for sure.

The rock sliders were just installed last week, but I wouldn't call it the best installation, both on my part and on the car. First, I didn't have an exact drill bit for the nutserts and I had some problems with my nutsert tool, so that added a lot of unnecessary time. Also, whoever owned the truck previously seriously messed up the jack points on the frame (behind/in front of the tires), which the sliders partially rely on to mount. I overcame all that but would definitely give myself a B- on that one. The ProSpeed trans guard went in just fine, even though there are slight differences in the design of the transmission support crossmembers between the Mk3.1 and the rest. Just some longer caphead bolts and a washer for each bolt and things were good.

Next up were tires. Unfortunately the largest tire size for 19in wheels are the 255/65 size I currently have, and only Goodyear makes them (either the AT Adventure or the Duratrac). Both are fine tires and mine have done great so far, but the AT Adventures were ~$250 cheaper so I went for them. No crazy tire noise on the highway, they are wearing great so far, and they have done very well offroad. Eventually I am going to want to go to 18in wheels and up to 34in tires so standby for that in the (distant-ish, but not) future.

The Frontrunner rack was so I could store the spare tire. It may have fit in the wheel well, but it would have had to been aired down a lot and there were sharp body bolts that were poking through that I didn't want near my tire. The rack has been great and really doesn't introduce too much noise on the road. Is it there, yes, but with the sunroof shade closed I really can't hear it. The two things I really like about the Frontrunner rack are 1: I can transfer it to basically any future rig and 2: they have a lot of accessories to add on more storage when I need it later.

Wishful/future mods:
  • 2in lift from SGC
  • 34in tires (295/70/18), which will require 18in wheels too
  • Rear electronic differential
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Now, what everyone came here for: pics! These are from October 2020 through March 2021, in no particular order.

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More pictures, and a small video.


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The mailman delivers! Awesome pictures, please keep them coming!!
Did the Prospeed sliders require you to remove your mudflaps or were they already off?
love the pictures! where were these taken?
The mailman delivers! Awesome pictures, please keep them coming!!
Thank you, I'll do my best. Still some seasonal restrictions in place but by early May should hopefully start heading back out on a regular basis.

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Did the Prospeed sliders require you to remove your mudflaps or were they already off?
No mudflaps for me. If I remember correctly you can either remove them entirely or you end up trimming them a little, which they provide a template for. Even without the mudflaps, I still had to trim a little bit of the plastic where the fender liner meets the slider, but i think everyone will be slightly different.

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love the pictures! where were these taken?
Thank you. The winter ones are out in SW New Hampshire, and the others are a mix between western New Hampshire and east if Concord, NH. Those will all be some of the main areas for me to go, but hopefully some stuff in Vermont and Maine too.

The hard part with pictures is I'm usually the only one in my car, and a lot of times I'm the tail, so my pictures are limited and same for others taking ones of me too.

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The AT Adventures do not appear on the Canadian Goodyear site, hmmmm
One thing I was just thinking of that I didn't talk through on the initial post.

When I was out a few weekends ago with my 4x4 club, I had a great opportunity where I got to use the offroad screen on the dash. I've never really had a need to look at the screen and see what's there. However, I was navigating some large boulders with the help of a spotter, and as he was telling me what direction to turn my tires, I was able to use the offroad screen and the tire direction display to help me line everything up with where I was currently and where I thought I needed to go. It's definitely something you don't need every second, but it was pretty cool and I was surprised how useful I found it.

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The AT Adventures do not appear on the Canadian Goodyear site, hmmmm
Unfortunately can't speak to outside of the US, but Duratracs are good too. I think Goodyear is also phasing out the AT Adventures for the AT Adventure with Kevlar. Unfortunately I know the kevlar one is only offered in 255/60, so options are probably shrinking in the future.

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A couple pictures from the Land Rover Owner's Day in Manchester, VT last weekend. Overall it is a cool area and I would love to get out that way for an extended weekend, but I will be skipping the LR Owners day/driving school in the future. Overall I don't think my expectations were that crazy and I wasn't expecting to do any crazy trails, but I also don't feel I got any value for the not-insignificant amount of money for a day that I could go out and do for free (and way more fun) an hour from my house (or out in VT, which I want to explore too). I was hoping we would have gotten 15-30 minutes of talking through capabilities, techniques, things to consider, etc but nothing. Likewise, there were almost 40 vehicles participating, of all vintages (which was cool), but that was way too many to have going all at once. I thought that since they divided us into smaller groups, that we would go and start at different areas, but all get to do the same stuff. I've been on runs with about 10 vehicles before, and that feels like a lot, let alone 4x that with people who haven't done this before.

This was also the first, and literally only, place that says "don't air down your tires." Can you offroad without airing down, sure, it's not absoluely necessary. However, would airing down tires have prevented me from waiting for 20 minutes while they inched a Disco 5 along in the really sticky mud from 4 straight days of rain, absolutely! I guess I get that they don't expect all these people to have means to air up again, but maybe they could provide that, and they don't have to have people air down that much (for reference, I usually go down to 17psi, and am considering 15-16). They were trying to tell me that you lose ground clearance (sure, true, but not a whole lot and I am curious exactly how much of my 16" of ground clearance I lose when airing down). They were also saying that its not settled that you get more traction from airing down (it's very settled, airing down = more footprint = more traction). Besides the increased traction, you also get tire protection by your tires being able to form to the rocks that are trying to slash them, in addition to a much smoother ride.

Just my opinion of it, for someone who never offroads their Rover, this could be a fun day, I just go out a lot and I can have way more fun for the great price of $Free.99 + gas.

Now for at least some pictures! I might try and get a video in here too, just got to stitch them all together.

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SUPER thick, pasty mud, made traction very tricky. If there was a day for MT tires, this was it. You can basically see that the tread is coated so I am basically getting very little grip at this point because I have nothing to bite down into the ground.
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ProSpeed sliders shot with the Lucky8 Disco peeking out from behind.
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Super old birch (I think) tree. Really cool views and area around Mt. Equinox.

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Saw a T-Rex in the wild, pretty cool, super jelly! The thing is big though! The shocks on it are massive too, just an overall imposing vehicle.
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A few more pictures from two weekends ago, nothing crazy. I'm leading a scouting run this weekend so i won't be taking pictures myself, but hopefully a few get taken of me...if there are enough people close by to NH I am more than happy to put together a day to get people out and offroad.





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Great pictures, keep em coming! Also, this is a good-looking Disco in the last picture, wonder if it'll do as well in the much as the previous generations did.
Great pictures, keep em coming! Also, this is a good-looking Disco in the last picture, wonder if it'll do as well in the much as the previous generations did.
I think they're pretty good, and Lucky8 has a few things for them. I don't think their offroad geometry or height are as good as ours but still not bad.

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A few pics from an offroad trip Saturday. I was the tail for the group so not quite as many pictures of me, but hoping someone sends me a few in the next day or so. Its always fun when you get a group together and everyone is different: 4Runner, Tacoma, wrangler, Cherokee, and an xterra.

Definitely glad I got the underbody armor added, it got its use today! 34s and a lift are going to be in the future for sure.







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Video from the water crossing pictured above. If you're impatient, I start just after the 2 minute mark. Based on other peoples' rigs and the water coming just under my headlights, I would say it was about 30-32in deep in some points, with most of the rest at 18-24in.


And here are a few more from the day. The first one shows that it's nice to have friends with all the gear. Apparently their company transitioned a benefit into a general "wellness" benefit, so he was basically able to get his company to buy some of his overlanding stuff...pretty sweet.

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I am also going to update my original post, but the trans guard required no custom installation beyond much longer caphead bolts than supplied, to account for the slightly different design of the trans crossmember support, as well as an extra washer placed on each bolt to give just enough clearance for the cats. Other than that, things went in quite fine and easy.
I think I finally figured out how to adjust the speedometer for larger tires. I don't know if I missed it when searching before, or if I finally ended up using a better search, but I came across an old thread. It turns out the field I was using in the GAP tool was correct, but I was adjusting it in the wrong direction! Apparently bigger tires means smaller number....what exactly this number means or what it does, who knows, but I have verified it with my GPS and some of the speed radars along the road and my car now accurately reflects the speed it is going. It also appears that my gas mileage and fuel range have adjusted as well, or at least temporarily, which I think makes sense but we'll see what time does.

The setting in the GAP tool is under Car Config --> Instrument Pack --> Tyre Size MSB - IPC. I have no idea what the original option was in there, but I initially adjusted it to 32 after changing tire size. I now have it set to 29 and that seems to do it.
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