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With the number of threads already covering similar issues, i'm almost embarrassed to post yet another but none of them quite match my issues.

I had the clutch on my 98 DSE professionally replaced about two weeks ago. When I got it back I notice a knock/rattle at very low speed that seemed to be coming from somewhere under the front of the car. The mechanic who did the clutch had mentioned that the front UJ looked a bit dry but not badly worn so I set about greasing it. Over the next couple of days the knock got worse and turned into more of a clatter but again, only when pulling away from stationary up to about 15-20MPH. More concerning (and I suspect related) is that a couple of days ago, a quite severe vibration started kicking in at roughly 25MPH through to about 55MPH. The vibration is bad enough that the seats all shake and can be clearly felt through the steering wheel and floor. At about 60-65MPH everything miraculously calms down and the car is a pleasure to drive again. The problems are clearly road speed related as knocking the car into neutral and revving the engine has no effect.

I checked the UJ’s again today with a pry bar and there doesn’t seem to be excessive play and I certainly can’t find anything loose.

Might be coincidence but worth mentioning that there is a metallic rubbing noise (also at the front) at all speed like binding brakes (but they are not!).

I am asking rather than taking it to the garage because I’ve just spent £600 on the clutch and £400 on a water pump failure. I have just returned to work after being made redundant and don’t get my first wage for a month yet. Right now every penny counts and if I can pin it down and do it myself, I might maintain 2 meals a day `)

Any help appreciated guys.
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Double mass flywheel probably gone bad.
Hi N2O. Flywheel was checked okay when the clutch was done. I believe if this failed it would also create noise and vibration at tickover (correct me if wrong though please).

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I would take it back to the place and get them to fix it (on their cost), especially if you didn't have the problem before the work was done...

£400 for water pump seems excessive... considering it's a £30 part, and takes about 3 hours to do if you've never done it before... I did mine in an afternoon, and cost was less than £100 including buying a viscous spanner and pulley holder...

Sorry, can't offer any other advice as I don't have a diesel.. or manual... but UJ's/diffs etc usually give off more of a whine which changes with road speed..

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If the clutch plate isn't centered right (with a specific tool) then the the transmission input shaft might not be seated right in the center bearing. do you have any vibrations when you have the car in neutral vs. clutch pressed?

Also the driveshaft needs to be greased every 3,000 miles. Not many people know this.
 

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I would take it back to the place and get them to fix it (on their cost), especially if you didn't have the problem before the work was done...

£400 for water pump seems excessive... considering it's a £30 part, and takes about 3 hours to do if you've never done it before... I did mine in an afternoon, and cost was less than £100 including buying a viscous spanner and pulley holder...

Sorry, can't offer any other advice as I don't have a diesel.. or manual... but UJ's/diffs etc usually give off more of a whine which changes with road speed..

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Hi Marty. I did think about taking it back to them as they are a Landrover specialist but I do think it's something that was disturbed (such as UJs) when the clutch was done rather than the clutch itself. Anyway I need the car to get to my new job on weekdays and they dont open at weekends. As for the water pump. It completely disintegrated taking the accessory belt and a pully with it and the radiator had to come out to get the pump out. Parts were about £50 it was the labour that killed it as usual. BTW. Will be contacting you soon about the LED clocks - If I keep the car that is :)

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If the clutch plate isn't centered right (with a specific tool) then the the transmission input shaft might not be seated right in the center bearing. do you have any vibrations when you have the car in neutral vs. clutch pressed?

Also the driveshaft needs to be greased every 3,000 miles. Not many people know this.
Makes no difference with the clutch up or down. I do think you're probably spot on with the driveshaft though as i've seen more grease in a scotch pie! Interestingly though, I locked the EAS in highway mode and there's a good 75% reduction in both the rattle and the vibration but they are still there. Coincidence perhaps. Anyway, I think a good greasing of the drive train is in order.

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Ouch! I also forgot that the water pump on the diesel is different to the petrol one, and the process is probably a bit different..

A bit worrying about the notice - I would at least see if you can pop past the LR place that did the work in a lunch break or something (I know what it's like to not have a lot of time though!) And see what they think - mentioning that it wasn't there before the clutch job...

LED clocks are still a work in progress . My work has been a lot busier than I expected, so have only recently got a set ready too send out (for petrol model). I won't have a chance to work anymore on the diesel one I have at home until I get back from the next job in mid-may... hoping to send a couple of other finished projects off on my day at home, and then be able to get cracking on LED work in May :)

You'll keep the RR... they're so lovely to drive when they're behaving!

Cheers and Congrats on the new job,
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Know what Marty? I hate you but you are dead right, I will keep the bloody thing even if it bankrupts me (and it probably will).

No sweat about the clocks BTW, I know you're a busy guy and I better deal with the mechanics before I worry about pretty lights `)
 

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Mine is exactly the same... some niggly things, and I'm going to always spend loads on maintenance - but I just love the way it drives, and cruising down the motorway in a leather armchair is a nice way to travel!

Been a lot busier than I had expected... actually can't wait for some time off, but another month to go yet!

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