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Hi everyone,
I bought a new p38 key for my father's car and he and his land rover expert have a trouble programing it to the car any ideas on how to program a brand new p38 key as his original 2 key fobs are playing up and he's constantly getting locked out at the moment
 

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Where did you buy the key? If from Land Rover ordered to match the VIN it just needs syncing, if elsewhere, it won't work. Sync is done in the door lock and will only work if the CDL and keyswitch microswitches in the latch are working. If there is a problem with either of those it won't sync and it will also lock you out if you try to unlock with the keyblade.
 

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No its was not ordered from land rover as we were told by them they no longer supply p38 Keyes but the key we got was a new one that has never been used. The car accepts the emergency code so I don't know if that says anything about the micro switches. What are our options because it seems like nobody does p38 Keyes anymore
 

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If you are, as the little flag suggests, in the UK, keys are still available from Land Rover, not cheap but available and must be ordered to match your VIN. You have two options, send your existing keys to be refurbished (Repair refurbishment fix for Range Rover P38 remote flip key fob + new case | eBay) or get the BeCM on your car re-programmed to match the code from the new key (which will mean your original keys will never work again). This is something that needs to be done by someone that has the ability to read the keycode from the new key, translate it into a lockset bar code and program that into the BeCM. However this does need specialist equipment and I know of only 2 places in the UK that can do it. If the car accepts the EKA then the latch microswitches are OK.
 

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Thanks for the replies!
Well the car is not with me in the UK but with my father in Greece unfortunately land rover Greece said they no longer supply them but I just spoke with my local land rover dealer here in Coventry and they said they will supply a new key for an eye watering £250 I told my father to try to cannibalize the new useless key to fix one of the originals
 

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I did say they weren't cheap although different dealers seem to quote different prices, anything from £148 up to nearly £400! Might be worth asking another dealer. One problem with the fobs is the switches under the buttons start to fail so although the LED lights up, there's no transmission which is why I suggested getting them refurbished with new switches.
 

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About a decade ago land rover Greece charged about £480 for a replacement does anyone know a dealer around the Midlands that does them for less than £250 that guy Salmon wants to charge me also yeah refurb kits are on order
 

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Don't get the kits, all they are is a pattern case, new buttons and a battery holder. The last one I got the pegs inside that hold the circuit board in place weren't in the right paces so the board could move around inside making it work very intermittently. Go to the place I linked to, you send your old fob to them and it comes back completely refurbished internally as well as fitted into a new case.
 

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Don't get the kits, all they are is a pattern case, new buttons and a battery holder. The last one I got the pegs inside that hold the circuit board in place weren't in the right paces so the board could move around inside making it work very intermittently. Go to the place I linked to, you send your old fob to them and it comes back completely refurbished internally as well as fitted into a new case.
The key that I have here with me in the UK has been refurbished by an automotive electrician but he told me it wont last for while because of something in the circuit board that he to put a wire to make it work and it's still a bit dodgy so I think ordering a new one is the best bet
 

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Thanos, google 'classic rides north wales' for replacement or, preferably, repair of your father's originals. They will need to know the car's country of origin to know which frequency is used.
See 'p38webshop.co.uk' for a DIY test of the latch microswitches.
The fob batteries are 2 x 2025's.
 

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Thanos, google 'classic rides north wales' for replacement or, preferably, repair of your father's originals. They will need to know the car's country of origin to know which frequency is used.
See 'p38webshop.co.uk' for a DIY test of the latch microswitches.
The fob batteries are 2 x 2025's.
The keys they sell are used so not much use to me I already have new one that's apparently not possible to program. We Have 3 keys atm one complete knackered 1 original that kind of works and one that's about 10 year old that's been refurbished but absolutely rubbish so I think I'll have to bite the bullet and buy a new one from land rover
 

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Just had a look at the keyfob I have here I remembered the guy who attempted a repair said it can't be be done and it's only temporary so he'll fix it with a wire that's a pic of what he's done do you think this fob can still be repaired or its beyond that now
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Not totally related to your problem, but if you need any local help, i'm in Athens and have a Nanocom.

I'm not a commercial entity, just privately offering help. (y)
 

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Thank you ever so much but my father is in thessaloniki the way they sorted things out was to disable passive immobilisation for the time being if anyone knows If this key can still be saved let me know
 

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There should be a small metal strip that fits into the side of the battery holder that touches onto a similar metal strip on the circuit board. The strip in the battery holder often falls out when you change the batteries and he's probably lost it so he's soldered a bit of wire to the circuit board to use that instead. The guy that refurbishes them on eBay that I linked to before will be able to sort that no problem at all. Definitely not a lost cause but easily repairable (and a hell of a lot cheaper than a new key)/
 

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Thanks for your replies I messaged the guy you linked with pics of my key and he said he'll sort it yeah not really worth buying a new key
 
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