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Hi all -
Recently acquired this new-to-me 1993 Range Rover County "Classic" SWB (1992 build - no EAS) from it's 6th owner in NJ. It was a California car (no rust!) up until 2018, when the 7th owner brought it home to NJ. In the last two years he only drove it about 3500 miles (but put a lot of money into maintenance, a paint job, undercoating).

Now it has a new home in Connecticut/NY. It's currently at 155k and I plan to put many many more miles on it, from the suburbs to highways to mountains to the beach.

I got it with maintenance records going back around 7 years, the truck was decently cared for from the looks of it, and it's condition shows a general history of care. The truck drives nicely, steering tight, comfortable springs/shocks, and (almost) everything works! ...even the clock!

MAINTENANCE/ISSUES

The main issues are of course electrical and are very common. They are as follows:
  • Heat does not really blow hot (fixed with a new thermostat)
  • Seat heaters dont work
  • Driver seat recline doesnt work
  • Power side mirrors dont work
  • sunroof does not work (however, it does work if you have the switch "on" for the rear wiper....though I am afraid to try and open it at all in case it gets stuck)
  • rear wiper does not work
  • headlamp washers do not work
  • driver window regulator on last legs
  • misc cracked wood, plastics, trim, etc. - Need to hunt down some pieces
  • bad radio ground (hums)
  • interior illumination scroll button broken, contact bad - currently working fine
  • misc interior bulbs out (clock, part of HVAC, part of shifter)
  • Pass rear door lock mechanism sticks locked - I think the spring in there needs to be changed. (all other central locking works)
  • tires mismatched and dry rotted (already put on 5 new tires - 235/70R16 BFG K02)

Mechanicaly the truck is fine, a few things to tinker with. Naturally they are mostly leaks!
  • Potential RMS seal
  • Leaking steering box
  • Leaking PS pump
  • Leaking oil pan gasket
  • Leaking Valve Cover gaskets
  • 1 Rear ABS sensor wires apart (no CEL or ABS light, front ABS still works - tested it on ice this week...)
  • Already flushed and filled the coolant, I plan to do some other service items including belts, plugs, above gaskets, etc.
  • Kickdown cable needs slight adjustment (maybe I am just learning the power curve) - does not always want to downshift with pedal to floor....

PERSONALIZATION/MODIFICATION
I am really into period-correct personalizations and "OEM+" modifications. I really want to keep the truck pretty original with some small changes that in my opinion will make it better looking without getting drastic. I have the accessories book from 1993 and there are a few that I am after to make some period-correct changes.
Already went straight for the OEM rubber mats and the disco cup holder...... the other accessoies a bit harder to find!
  • STC8026 front lamp guard grilles. very rare options in the states apparently. Only ones I have seen for sale are abroad....
    (I have the OEM nudge bar with lamp guards, but I think I like the look without the big bar on the front. A bit cleaner, though I like the option to throw it on when I'd like to)
  • ROW non-NAS corner lamps with both orange/clear (as opposed to all-orange NAS)
  • Clear side markers w/ orange glow (my oem ones already faded to essentially clear anyway) - I found some period-correct Overfinch aftermarket ones which I may go with
  • RTC9475 OEM roof bars. Very hard to find, may just go with the Thule. I like the option of throwing them on thought the wind noise will likely drive me nuts...
  • OEM Front tow hook in OEM lower valence cutout
  • Swap out OEM lamps for Cibie or Hella units with better lighting - while sticking with halogen.
  • STC8147 Cocktail cabinet & STC8149 picnic tables - found a single set for sale online....
  • STC8018L - padded gun/security box - for storage but "cool"
  • STC8131 - ABS plastic OEM loadspace protector
  • RTC9585 - OEM portable fridge for trunk
  • STC8244 - OEM tool kit ( I have the bottle jack, ramp, tire iron - but thought would be cool to have the period correct tool kit)
  • RTC9520 - OEM Winch Kit (gloves, tow rope, etc) - thought cool to have!
As far as other changes, I am thinking of doing custom wood inserts where I can't find OEM burl wood trims, for the center console and dash. Additionally, I am thinking of building out a wood cabinet for the trunk space, including drawers and storage cubbies - one that is removable for when I need the larger trunk space.

Additionally, I am considering a very small lift, but only when it comes time to change out the shocks down the road. The truck will be primarily used on pavement, with some trips offroad for when we are in the mountians, at the beach, or otherwise. It will not really see propor 4x4 trail duty.

Anyway, it's been 10 days of ownership and already have my work cut out for me with the interior electrical gremlins and the parts I'm looking to source.... but so far it's been lovely to drive...here are some pictures!

Looking forward to the adventure that is Range Rover Classic ownership!
 

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Very British weather for the day it came home.
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First snow only a few days later... perfect time to test out that legendary awd while the dry-rotted old tires still were on it!
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BFG K02s on... front plate mount off...looking great for its first early Sunday AM cars and coffee
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Blimey - enjoyed reading your narrative. Looks like you've got a long but enjoyable journey ahead! Is yours a 3.9? I have a 2 inch lift on mine (previous owner), and would not recommend it, although others may disagree. Mine, although enjoyable to drive, does so like a wet mattress. When the opportunity comes I will be reverting to standard height! Will you be doing a basic service before getting stuck in with the major work?
 

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Blimey - enjoyed reading your narrative. Looks like you've got a long but enjoyable journey ahead! Is yours a 3.9? I have a 2 inch lift on mine (previous owner), and would not recommend it, although others may disagree. Mine, although enjoyable to drive, does so like a wet mattress. When the opportunity comes I will be reverting to standard height! Will you be doing a basic service before getting stuck in with the major work?
Hey there, yes it's a 3.9. Before a major service I wanted to give it a bit of a "break in drive" (now at 1500 miles since purchase) before servicing it.

Before most of the miles, in the first week of ownership I had the coolant flushed and lines blown out when the thermostat was replaced, and had it looked over for any major red-flag-fix-now items.

After that, I have basically been daily-driving it to work and last week drove around 1000 miles total while upstate (including 2.5 hr there and back) for hiking etc. No complaints during the trip and is actually a decent highway cruiser though I laugh at how many MPH the speedo shows when the truck's top speed is probably 100mph downhill.

Next service within the coming weeks will be oil pan / valve cover gaskets, oil service. Will check on other usual items and take a closer look at the leaky steering box and other items to see what all needs to be serviced further. I'll probablyl throw a fresh battery in as I think it got a little low two weeks back when it sat for 3 days in 20-30deg weather - still started up but the central locking was acting up. There are some usual electrical gremlins but I think a few of them can be blamed on grounding issues. Need to pull the headliner and lower dash to check the grounds there and otherwise.

Otherwise it's really a stout truck, starts up each time without complaint, just need to sort out the electrical gremlins and fix up some interior pieces like the wood, some vinyl areas, and fix the terrible grounding noise from the radio, and I'll be happy.
 

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The earlier (pre-1990) speedo topped out at 110, which is a bit more accurate. The newer speedo is, well, optimistic :)
 

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The earlier (pre-1990) speedo topped out at 110, which is a bit more accurate. The newer speedo is, well, optimistic :)
Definitely optimistic. I do appreciate that at cruising speeds, the needle is facing straight at 12 oclock lol
 

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Took a trip up to the Catskills last week for a few days. Approx 2 hour drive each way with no issues or complaints. One thing I know I’d like to fix is the grounding issue with the aftermarket radio... after 2 hours of that felt like I was still hearing it while hiking 😅 in think there’s a ground right behind the radio so will check that first. I’m thinking some of my other interior issues may also be bad grounds. Though The seat recline was just a fuse....
As of today I've put around 1600 miles on the RR since purchasing a month ago. So far not really any complaints aside from the usual electrical gremlins and driveway spots..... starts right up and drives every time. Some more pics from the last few weeks:
 

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Great looking truck! Love seeing photos of the adventures taken in Classics.

I have a new condition tool kit from a 93 Classic that I'd be willing to sell. I'd love for it to go to an enthusiast. PM me if interested.

Cheers,

Erich
 

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Great looking truck! Love seeing photos of the adventures taken in Classics.

I have a new condition tool kit from a 93 Classic that I'd be willing to sell. I'd love for it to go to an enthusiast. PM me if interested.

Cheers,

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Thank you! it's been fun so far.

Re tool kit, I may be interested - will PM you, thanks.
 

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Looks like a good trip, they do make for a little adventure rather than just driving somewhere don't they.

We've taken ours to the Alps a few times and one of my favourite trips.

The radio earthing, is that interference when running? They are ordinarily run with suppression HT leads but there are some views that delete this. I don't share that reasoning for ignition performance reasons, but also never get compromised broadcast.
 

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Looks like a good trip, they do make for a little adventure rather than just driving somewhere don't they.

We've taken ours to the Alps a few times and one of my favourite trips.

The radio earthing, is that interference when running? They are ordinarily run with suppression HT leads but there are some views that delete this. I don't share that reasoning for ignition performance reasons, but also never get compromised broadcast.
It was a good trip, it's lovely to drive.

The interference is only with the motor running. The "whine" and "buzz" both change tone with acceleration / pedal / RPMs.

i was told to check the ground / earthing location behind the radio (mine is an aftermarket radio) to see if 1) its grounded and 2) condition of ground.
 
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