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About to get started installing tonight.
The dynamat came in. The dynaliner foam does not have a peel and
stick adhesive side like I thought it was suppose to:
http://www.dynamat.com/products_car_aud ... liner.html
So, I may be sending that back for a refund. I guess I could just spray
it with super77 glue, I guess either way it is meant to be pretty much
permament.
 

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Thats weird it cleary says peel and stick application.
So you have everything installed, meaning the amp? Im anxious to hear how you get this to sound.
 

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Thats weird it cleary says peel and stick application.
So you have everything installed, meaning the amp? Im anxious to hear how you get this to sound.
I may just use one of those foam things you put on top of your mattress
instead of the dynamat foam (i don't have enough of it anyway). I don't
see why the matress foam wouldn't work, and it would fill up more airspace
in the tailgate than the dynamat foam. I could also use the mattress foam
to completely fill in the space created by the trim piece.
Yea, I have the amp installed, its cool; has a bright blue glowing light :D
that won't even be seen :(
I plan to have everything finished up late tomorrow (thurs.) night.
 

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yea that price is about right. I paid $104 (including shipping) for mine.
That is the same place that I ordered my audiocontrol LC6 from
so I can vouch for them.
 

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doesn't look like that is a RR to me.
You can definately do something like that or have it done, its not easy though.
I ran into a little speed bump on this subwoofer install.
Turns how the sub is about 1/4in. too deep for the tailgate,
it hits the back of the enclosure and does not fit. So, I've
just finished cutting a speaker ring that will allow it to fit.

Mason- I'm assuming your installers had to do this also otherwise
you may want to see if you have a bulge on the outside of your
tailgate :D

I already cut the speaker wires so I don't know if I'll be able to
test the sub on just the factory amp, maybe.
More updates at 11:00 :lol:
 

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Great I just bought that sub thinking that it fits like a glove. Is this gonna be a big problem or will the install shop be able to make it work without big $$$
 

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Great I just bought that sub thinking that it fits like a glove. Is this gonna be a big problem or will the install shop be able to make it work without big $$$
Its not a problem. All they have to do is cut a ring out for the speaker
like this:


This is where I am right now, screwing the ring to the tailgate, then screwing
in the sub.
 

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Is this in an RRS?

That is the back of an Infiniti FX35/45. I recognize the rear release handles for the rear seats to fold forward.....
 

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will the cover still fit back on to the tailgate with the sub being a little bit out like that?
Well, I'll let you know :)
nah, it looks like it will be fine.
These are my beer refill updates :D
There is no way to fill the enclosure with dynamat or the mattress foam,
and I seriously doubt its going to need it. Its much smaller than I thought,
probably perfect for the speaker. I just put about a 1.5ft sqaure piece of
dynamat directly behind the speaker. I'm about to hook the speaker up
and see how it sounds on the factory amp. Then I have to wire up
everything, make sure it all works and see how it sounds. Then secure
the trim piece with dynamat and fill it in with the mattress foam, and
that should do it.
 

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ryan, i'm sure they had to do something similar... i'm a little afraid as it didn't take them more than 2-3 hours to do the install and i'm beginning to wonder if it had anything to do with their skills or flat out slackness in doing the job right. i guess i'll have my answer when you finally finish and get the sub pumping!

i await anxiously... :?
 

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ok, finally got everything hooked up. There's good and bad.
The bad is that the speaker is just way to powerful for the tailgate
location which I was afraid of. The tailgate does rattle quite a bit
even with the trim piece off. The good (or potentially good :D) is
that there is SOME hope. A major problem with the location is all the
holes in the tailgate that the trim piece clips go into, I missed this
until now. Anyway, the air is escaping out of these; you can cover
a few of them up with your fingers and hear the difference (much more solid sound).
So i'm going to go ahead and try to seal off all the air leaks the best
I can and see if that helps. If it doesn't work, then I'm going to build
an enclosure to go under the seat.
Its late and I'm beat, tomorrow I plan to do all I can to get the best
sound possible from the tailgate location.
 

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ryanoz said:
ok, finally got everything hooked up. There's good and bad.
The bad is that the speaker is just way to powerful for the tailgate
location which I was afraid of. The tailgate does rattle quite a bit
even with the trim piece off. The good (or potentially good :D) is
that there is SOME hope. A major problem with the location is all the
holes in the tailgate that the trim piece clips go into, I missed this
until now. Anyway, the air is escaping out of these; you can cover
a few of them up with your fingers and hear the difference (much more solid sound).
So i'm going to go ahead and try to seal off all the air leaks the best
I can and see if that helps. If it doesn't work, then I'm going to build
an enclosure to go under the seat.
Its late and I'm beat, tomorrow I plan to do all I can to get the best
sound possible from the tailgate location.
thanks ryanoz... keep the posts coming... I am counting on you!
 

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ok so here's the thing...
I sealed off all the holes and air leaks in the tailgate, sound improved
dramatically. 60% of the rattle is from the glass hatch... I opened the
glass hatch and the sound improved even more. So with the glass hatch
opened, all the holes sealed off (with electrical tape, just for these testing
purposes) and the trim piece still off the sound is 75% better; it really
is a serious improvement, sounds pretty **** good. The reason its
still not perfect is because the one major rattle left is from the main tailgate
latch. So I'd say between the glass latch and the tailgate latch, they make
up 85% of the rattling (with the trim still off). I have no idea how to make
the latches solid other than holding them with my hands. If there were just
a way to keep everything solid, its sounds incredible.

So here are the obsticles... the trim piece clips have to be able to go into
the holes, so there is no way to seal them up other than the actual clips
being there which isn't going to seal it up very well. The actual tailgate and
glass latches rattle noticeably UNSHUT and considerably when the hatches
are actually SHUT.

I'm about to go ahead and put the trim piece back on. I'm going to add
some ticky tack (stuff used to hang posters on walls, putty like) on the
trim piece clips to keep them in place so they don't rattle. Going to cut
the mattress foam to fit inside the trim piece. And dynamat as much of
the tailgate before putting the trim back on as I can, including on the
latches themselves. This will be all I can do.

If everything were solid, this sounds incredibly good... if I push against the
tailgate and the latches to make it solid, its awesome. So we'll see if it
works out, if not... then I'm going to see if that pioneer underseat enclosure will fit or build my own.

Its also noteworthy to mention that I've had to drive around some with
these trim pieces off (rear hatch/rear left quarter panel), and there is
major road noise... it sounds like the whole rear of the car is missing.
Behind the rear left quarter panel its a huge hollow space. I will definitely
be adding some dynamat and foam in these places, it will certainly
quiet the ride.
 

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from what I can tell the simple solution if everything worked out would be to buy the pioneer box and put it under the seat. It will take an act of God to have that box fit under the seat though. Do you have the dimensions bc it wont let me register to see the dimensions, something wrong with the website
 

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welp, bad news.
I spent all day dynamating the tailgate and sealing all the air leaks,
and I got it sounding really good. I was jazzed, I dynamated the panel
piece, secured all the clips, and filled it with mattress foam; it was
perfect. Went to put the panel on and the one thing I was scared of...
the sub is out too far and the trim will not go on. With a thinner
speaker ring, it will probably go on.

Mason- you may want to ask them what they did about the speaker not
fitting. It fits enough to screw in all but maybe a couple screws, I would
definately make sure they didn't do this. Otherwise they used something
really thin to make a speaker ring, which is what I may try to do; maybe
some masonite would work.

So anyway, It sounded great with the panel piece off and with the glass
hatch OPEN. When you closed the glass hatch it rattled, but only when
turned up loud. If the panel would have fit back on, I imagine it would
still have sounded good maybe better, or it could have rattled :)
So I took the sub out and put the panel back on (with the mattress foam
still in it), the panel piece is soild... you can knock on it and there are no
rattle sounds.

The pioneer underseat enclosure WILL NOT fit under the seats and you'd
have to be some kind of carpenter genius to build one that would work.
When you close the back seats, there is actually more room than you
would think (height-wise), about 6in. tall. But there just isn't enough
room to do anything under the seats. So i'm considering this for behind
the seats: http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/v ... 37,00.html
very small footprint.

I MAY try cutting a new speaker ring out of masonite or something thin
and see if the speaker will fit AND the panel go back on. Before I do this
though I would need to find somewhere to get some new plastic panel
fasteners (the clips that hold the panels on) because taking the panel on
and off the clips get smashed or broken. I've had a couple that got bent,
they still worked, but if I was going to take the panel off again... i would
want to replace them with new ones. Does anyone know where I could
get some of these (see photo)?

So... after all this what did I end up with? A wired up amp, LC6, no sub,
and the most solid non-rattling tailgate on the road :D

Here are a bunch of photos:
http://www.ryanoz.com/temp/rangerover/sub/web/
 

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Looks great, congrats on putting so much work into it.
Why not just cut a circle out of the trim piece and have the sub stick out through it? Although not entirely stealth, I still think it would look pretty cool since the sub itself looks pretty nice.
 
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