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I have just shook hands on a deal for a 2003 MKIII Range Rover. I will pay for and receive the car tomorrow morning. The car is in excellent condition but as we all know, I will still have a very serious need for participating in the Forums.

While this is not a picture that I took, it is of the vehicle that I am picking up tomorrow.


I will still keep the P38a. I would never be able to get ride of her. I will let her gracefully retire and live out the remainning days running the occasional off road trail or trip to the home supply store. I have way too much history with my P38a. I simply could never part. So you may still hear from me from time to time. I am still trying to figure out the jolting driveline / torque converter problem that I have.

A big thanks to all the people that have helped me over the years. It was well worth the time participating on this forum.
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Storey, thank you for all that you have done to make all P38 lovers enjoy there EAS system!!! :clap: :clap: :clap: Healthy EAS at 209,000 miles Thanks Storey I was really going to Coils before I met you..
You will be missed..

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G'day Storey, like your old and new car you won't be far away It's a range rover,many thanks for your timeless imput and dedication to the EAS :thumb:
IT has got me out of trouble twice already ,everone should have a EAS buddy in there glove box :clap:
Enjoy the new beast :dance:
 

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Thank-you for what you have done for the ownership of our rig. When we could afford the new style I'll feel more comfortable knowing that you own one as well . Nice one by the way, just don't email my wife. :D
 

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Thanks for the suspension reset tool, it worked great. I have to say thats a nice upgrade.

You mind me asking what these are selling for in your area? I just sold my p38 but picked up a f150 crew cab for a while but already I want to get back to my original plan of buying a new style range rover.
 

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Congratulations Storey

Your EAS imput will stay in the Range Rover history, especially P38 ownership :clap:

I wish you and us that you'll be as good for L322. :thumb:


Cheers

Flo
 

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Storey. Thanks for all your support and the effort you put into creating your EAS tools for us mere mortals, your valued advice will be sorely missed. Take care mate, enjoy your pretty Range Rover.. :clap:
 

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Storey, your contribution to the RR P38 community is HUGE! Thanks for the software, the EAS buddy and the ABS buddy (to name some) and we all, ofcourse, expect the same contribution for the 'LM/L322 world' :lol:

Thanks again and we will be in touch.

Regards from the Netherlands,
Goswin de Rouw

.... yes, driving a LR3 and yes, also still here .... :D
 

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Thank you all for the warm wishes. Many many a night has been spent pouring over the questions and postings from all of the P38a forum members. I will still continue to do so.

The MKIII is amazing. Wow! I just drove it home this morning and I am blown away. It is like when you were a kid and got a new pair of shoes in the shoe store and really really want to wear the new pair home. The old pair was still your favorite, but the new pair was new and sleek. Made you feel like a milliopn bucks. I am still keeping the old pair of shoes.

 

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Great!

The new motor looks really smart.

Would you consider making a post here to say what you find the differences are?

Thanks very much for your excellent work here with the software and kit - much appreciated!
 

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Hi Storey - As per the sentiments already expressed, a BIG thank you for all your sleepless nights :thumb:

I guess the move was something most of us are more likely to make now that you have bitten the bullet.

I look forward to the valuable contributions you will defintely be making on the new model.

Good Luck :clap:
 

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I will echo Spiggys words. I will be most interesting to hear your findings and comparisons. They will be most usefull for all of us who will sooner or later find themselves in your position. Looking forward to Buddy box II.
 

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These issues have probably already been covered inth MKIII forum, but here is what I have found interesting and disturbing about the MKIII

-Make sure that the recalls have been performed on both the Front differential and the Steering column. :doh:
-The oil leaks have not been completely eliminated. There are still some slightly oily areas. :roll:
-If you throught that the previous model had too many electronics, well then run away from the MKIII. :shock:
-There are so many electronics modules, that they have there own cooling fans and ventelation ducts.
-There are so many electronics, I found the interior fuse box and it had about 3 times as many interior fuses. (Not kidding)
-The MKIII uses a CAN communications bus. This in some ways makes it easier for the engineers to make everything inter-communicate. For example, the analog clock is set by the digital navigation system clock settings. More interconnectivity means that a small single point of failure may bring larger systems down. My point being, that it might have too much interconnectivity.

-The spacious engine bay and undercarriage working room has been completely eliminated. No room to get your hands on anything!!!
-I noticed that the exhaust system seems to not have any junction brackets. It all appears to be one welded piece from engine to tail pipe.
-Inspect the rubber suspension components on the suspension linking arms. Make sure they are not cracked or worn too badly.
-Currently Front Air springs are integrated with the front struts. The price for replacement is just under 1000 USD each. So check the front Suspension bags on the highest setting and inspect for cracks. You do not want to take a 2000 USD hit with your brand new used car. :cry:
-Remeber that the suspension is fully independent so check check check the tire wear pattern. Much more expensive to fix and align.
-The interior carpets are the same wonderful quality as previous. Althrough I think that the leather and the seat construction is a step down in quality compared to the P38a. :(

To be honest, I do not think the experience will have changed that much inregards to repair headaches. It will just be in different systems. What has not been lost in any way and in fact has improved dramatically, is the feeling you get when driving a Rover. Your driving position is still very commanding. The response of the wheel still feels very connected to all four wheels. Except now, the engine is smooth as silk, has amazing low end power and the transmission is much much smarter and smoother than previous.

And best of all, people turn their heads and still stare at a pretty Rover. It makes you feel like a million buck driving it around. I honestly can not wait to get the vehicle off-road. I am dying to see how the independent suspension handles the obstacles.
 

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Your truck looks tremendous I wish I was picking one up soon.
Enjoy your new range rover and it's advancements,i'm sure you will love it.
Thanks for your EAS surgery it's fantastic.
Cheers,
PB
 

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Wasn't the MK III the fully BMW designed Rover?

Given the timing there should be a very close electrical/electronic relationship with the X5 and 2002/2003 BMW 745 electronics wise. Just hope it isn't too close to the 745.

The 4.4 engine used in the 745 had a design change that ran the water passage tube from the back of the engine to the waterpump inside the casting. The o-ring seal at the back is failing in ever increasing numbers as the 745 gets older. The problem shows itself as a leak from a hole to the left of the water pump.

I don't know if it is the same in the Rover version and I have paid no attention to the X5 forums.

Spendy fix if it happens--BMW quotes about $9000 to repair.

Is it the same engine block?
 

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Storey, you can't get away that easy, now that we all know we can find you on the Mark III page we will still be filling your head with P-38 Q&A's, after all, YOU ARE THE MAN TO GO TO . Sorry Bud, don't worry, we all wish we had the money to drive a newer version of whatever model we have. As has already been said, everyone should have a Buddy box in the truck at all times, it sure has made my life easier, thanks so much, congradulations,the new toy look's beautiful, may you get many, many miles out of her without any problems. Cheers and all the best to you bud, you deserve it for all the people you have helped. Be talkin to you in the future, keep the rubber side down. Big-T. :clap: :clap: :clap: :dance: :dance: :dance: :thumb: :lol: :D
 

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Good one, Storey! I'm doing the same thing, "upgrading" and keeping the old lady! So her I go, being a 38 faithful and diving into the mk 3. It is a Land Rover, whatever they say.. :dance: Goswin, what about the Disco 3?
 

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I bet a lot of the P38A owners will eventually transition over to the new model, so you'll be one of the trailblazer, I suppose. Just like you, I bet most of them will be keeping the P38A till it dies, due to the most part, sentimental values.

Any reason you went w/ 03 model instead of later models, other than pricing issues? I've been eyeing the 06 models, especially the supercharged model.

Regards,
 
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