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MY 2003 RANGE ROVER 104K LOST ALL PEDAL POWER WHILE DRIVING ON A QUATER TANK, I PUSH THE PEDAL DOWN AND IT CAUGHT POWER REALLLY LATE THEN WHEN I PUSHED THE PEDAL DOWN AGAIN THERE WAS NO POWER. THE CAR SHUT OFF.. WHEN I STARTED THE CAR AGAIN IT MADE A NOISE LIKE IF A PERSON WAS TO TRYING THE START A CAR BUT THE CAR WAS ALREADY ON. AND STAYED ON ON FOR A COUPLE ME MINUTES THEN SHUTS OFF. I CAN'T PUT THE CAR IN ANY GEARS. IM GUESSING BUT HOPEING ITS NOT THE TRANSMISSION GOING OUT, SOME PEOPLE WERE GUESSING THAT A FUEL ISSUE WAS PRESENT AND THAT THE CAR WASN'T GETTING PROPER FUEL TO RUN BUT I HAVE NO IDEA AT ALL WHAT IT COULD BE. IM VERY CONFUSED ANY HELP WILL BE APPRECIATED THANK YOU ALL FOR READING.
 

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No i didn't get that done as of yet. does it sound like diff failure to you?
 

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No i didn't get that done as of yet. does it sound like diff failure to you?
go outside and see if it's broken! Go look under the car and make sure it's not leaking oil/coolant
 

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Are you able to start the engine, engage Drive and the vehicle doesn't move - you just hear a terrible metallic grating noise?

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It sounds like something inside is spinning but not actually applying power, but the weird thing is when i leave the car of 10mins i can move it for a couple feet in drive then it totally loses power. and when i try to start it up it will not stay on. but if i give it 5 mins it drives a little then loses all petal power and all gear power. i have no idea what this is.
 

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brad s1 Thanks for your post i will go outside i look under tomorrow first thing since its dark now. i guess im looking for a broken piece or something like that. it always was looking coolant from somewhere in the car i thought it was a seal. and i also think i saw red fluid when i was under the car a few months ago if thats has something to do with anything. thanks
 

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brad s1 Thanks for your post i will go outside i look under tomorrow first thing since its dark now. i guess im looking for a broken piece or something like that. it always was looking coolant from somewhere in the car i thought it was a seal. and i also think i saw red fluid when i was under the car a few months ago if thats has something to do with anything. thanks
Anything leaking out of a range rover is bad news... At least the newer ones. Def let us know what you find... you're basically looking for broken driveline parts or large accumulations of fluids, either dripping out or on the ground already...

Also wouldn't hurt to pull the oil dipstick and make sure it's clean.

Let us know, good luck!
 

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If you still have the old-style front propshaft/differential fitted in your L322 (but, if so, how did you miss the recall?) and it is the front propshaft spline that has failed then you won't be able to tell looking underneath because the spline is hidden inside the pinion drive tube. However, it will give you the opportunity to check which version you have with reference to the photo below.

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I definitely was not able to tell if the diff or front shaft went but its definitely the old propshaft when i looked under the front. thanks RRphil for telling me to check that. well today when i check the car out i notice that grinding noise i thought it was. it was actually the car cranking and not turning over. the way i had the key in i thought it was turned over and making that noise. that was dumb of me :( . My friend put a fuel starting spray in the mass air flow sensor and the car turned over and was quiet but didn't stay on long enough for me to try and put it in a gear. Now im thinking its possibly something with the fuel pump that cause the suv to have proper fuel consumption and shut off?? these range rovers are so confusing. Any ideas anyone? currently im searching for a good mechanic until then Im trying to figure it out. Thanks to all
 

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I definitely was not able to tell if the diff or front shaft went but its definitely the old propshaft when i looked under the front. thanks RRphil for telling me to check that. well today when i check the car out i notice that grinding noise i thought it was. it was actually the car cranking and not turning over. the way i had the key in i thought it was turned over and making that noise. that was dumb of me :( . My friend put a fuel starting spray in the mass air flow sensor and the car turned over and was quiet but didn't stay on long enough for me to try and put it in a gear. Now im thinking its possibly something with the fuel pump that cause the suv to have proper fuel consumption and shut off?? these range rovers are so confusing. Any ideas anyone? currently im searching for a good mechanic until then Im trying to figure it out. Thanks to all
If you turn the car to position before start, it should shoot power to the fuel pump... If you have your head down near the bumper under the gas tank, you should hear a high pitch whine noise, if you don't the pump isn't running = no fuel = no start. Crack open the manual, find the fuse for the fuel pump, replace it! Hopefully its that simple. Also don't spray carb cleaner in there to start it, that's not, "horrible," for a car with aluminum intake parts, but it could back fire and explode the land rovers plastic parts. Its also pretty horrible to spray that stuff at the maf, if you need to use it, pull the intake apart until you get to the throttle body, then spray it in there.

If it isn't an easy fix, download the rav manual, search the forum, super easy to find to download, hit me up if you can't... Pull the pump, hard wire it to a battery and see if it works, if not replace it. There could also be a slew of other things that I don't even know about to trouble shoot, are you throwing any codes, possibly a hard fault that cuts fuel for some reason? Have you checked codes yet? Maybe a fuel line is broken or a fitting snapped, maybe a sensor is unplugged... It could be a million things, keep us posted!
 

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Thanks very much I know those things aren't good but i was so desperate that i wanted to see if it was going to turn the engine on which it did because i had no idea what was wrong. I definitely what to check the fuse to see if it needs replace. I want to start with that. The second thing i want to do is check the fuel filter but i have no idea where that is located. If anyone does that will be great. I also im not throwing any codes at all which seems to be weird. I will give a update tomorrow when i change the fuse thanks so much everyone for your answers its extremely helpful to me.
 

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Thanks very much I know those things aren't good but i was so desperate that i wanted to see if it was going to turn the engine on which it did because i had no idea what was wrong. I definitely what to check the fuse to see if it needs replace. I want to start with that. The second thing i want to do is check the fuel filter but i have no idea where that is located. If anyone does that will be great. I also im not throwing any codes at all which seems to be weird. I will give a update tomorrow when i change the fuse thanks so much everyone for your answers its extremely helpful to me.
Fuel filter is a great call, I have no idea where it is... Before you dig in you should really download the rav manual... It has step by step instructions for everything having to do with l322 repairs.
 

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Today I tried change the fuse for the fuel pump and crank the car a few more times and still no start. The car lost so much power it couldn't even try to crank anymore. Tomorrow i will buy the rave Manuel thanks brads 1 good idea because i don't know where the fuel filter or pump is. I also have a mechanic that will come and and try to diagnose a few things Ill let you guys know what happens as soon as hes done Thanks to all for your constant responses and help. I hope its only a fuel pump.
 

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Today I tried change the fuse for the fuel pump and crank the car a few more times and still no start. The car lost so much power it couldn't even try to crank anymore. Tomorrow i will buy the rave Manuel thanks brads 1 good idea because i don't know where the fuel filter or pump is. I also have a mechanic that will come and and try to diagnose a few things Ill let you guys know what happens as soon as hes done Thanks to all for your constant responses and help. I hope its only a fuel pump.
just download it `)

http://green-oval.com/joomla/index.php? ... &Itemid=29
 

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Thanks so much Brad s1 that download worked. well today i had a mechanic come by and check the car out. they said that hooked up the diagnostic and read this code

P1455 -Diagnostic monitoring for tank leakage power stage short circuit to ground minimal signal

Whatever that means I have no idea, and it still won't start, any ideas guys?
 

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According to RAVE there's a tank leakage diagnostic module hidden under the RH rear wheel arch liner (close to the fuel filler) and the DTC relates to a short circuit in its changeover valve drive :? Goodness knows what that means???

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OH MAN WOW THAT SOUNDS VERY COMPLICATED :( IT SOUNDS LIKE A TRIP TO THE STEALERSHIP UNLESS IM ABLE TO FIND A GOOD MECHANIC THAT KNOWS THESE ROVERS, HAS ANYONE EVER SEEN THIS CODE? I HOPE THIS CAN BE FIXED FOR A REASONABLE PRICE, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT PRICE RANGE THIS ISSUE IS GOING TO GO UNDER. :cry:
 

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there are a lot of 4x4 specialists garages around and they have always been good and know what they are doing. also less than half price costs that a stealership would charge. reading is only up the road from portsmouth, have you tried any around reading? if not try WEST 4X4 in bishops waltham hes always been good and fair prices.
best of luck to you.
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My 2003 RR is having almost identical symptoms, where it the interior console area started heating up, then it started loosing power to the point where it would turn itself off. I have it at the shop right now and called my mechanic a few minutes ago...it was related my RR needs a brand new "Fuel Pump", last year he said, they changed 4 fuel pumps to four different RR's. The part is a staggering $800.00, plus labor & taxes will be around $1.200 /:( /:(

I have approved the repairs for this afternoon. The shop will install then drive the rig and see what happens. They still have not figured out why it heats up from the inside. I don't have the code, but the shop related the code read: SYSTEM LEAN..., so yes, the fuel pump can't act up in a whole lot of ways. I hope that takes care of the stalling issues. I have ran the rig on very low fuel(light on) on more than 4-5 occasions, so that probably didn't help.

No grinding of any kind however- the axle-driveline was fixed by the dealer last year.

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