[Scotty]

Ok so I went to replace a burned out dip beam on the drivers side of the car, I purchased a Sylvania 9005 I know thats what it takes because I replaced the other side last month 65 watt. I came home removed the rubber cover and presto the light is really different, all wires are the same color as the passager side. It has what I would call a pretty standard plug for the 9005 type bulb with a yellow and a blk wire there are no splices. The drivers side light has a blk ground wire to the fixture and a yellow wire to the back of the bulb which is held in by a spring clip. So the question is which light do I match, which is correct ?

Scotty

 

[RRToadHall]

Mine uses H4 on the outside bulbs, dual filament high and low(main and dip). The inside bulbs are 9005 high (main). Outside only on low beam, all four on high beam. No changes have been made to the system wiring, so this is straight from the factory design.

 

[Scotty]

I must have two different year lights or maybe one light has been replaced because of damage is it possible when replacing a light fixture the steeler has an upgrade? What year is your P38 Carl?

Scotty

 

[RRToadHall]

:lol: sorry... ROFL See pic picture above and below.

You and I should have the same wiring. I think all of us have the same headlamp wiring. Have you looked at Rave?

 

[RRToadHall]

Apologies Scotty, that was mean of me. Using American terms the 9005 would be your high beam... inside bulb... single filament. You dip or low beam should be a dual filament bulb.

 

[Scotty]

oops he he he I'm craken myself up here, I've seen your Rangi a thousand times I guess i'm not really that focused on the issue at hand.
Ok so we have the same car. I changed my lights out some time back with the 2000my I know the owner befor me, had the dealer replace one of the orginal lights because of rock damage, thats why I wonder if they could have done in upgrade to the harness and fixture. When I replaced the lights I just pluged the harness in I didn't notice the bulbs.

Scotty

 

[RRToadHall]

Just at a far stretch here, have you pulled both bulbs on each side just to make sure they didn't get plugged in wrong? I don't think you can, but then again odder things have happened.

I have a buddies rig here, I'll check his bulbs in a few when I lock up the shop.

 

[RRToadHall]

Okay, so I am too lazy to pop the hood in the dark and hunt up a flash light. Actually, the Simpsons are on shortly. :mrgreen:

However, a quick flip of the headlamp switch shows that he also has dual filament outer bulbs and single inners. I'll try to remember to look tomorrow for ya.

 

[RRToadHall]

Are you sure it was a 9005 dip and not a 9003? I just ask because 9003 and H4 are interchangeable terms for our dual filament dip/main outter bulbs. The 9005 would still be a single filament though.

 

[kmagnuss]

Mine are h4 on the outside lamps...definitely not 9005.

 

[Scotty]

Just so were all on the same page I may be calling the light a dip beam when I sould not be. I am talking about the brights the bulbs closest to the raidiator, one of mine is a 9005 the other is a different light all together it's a much smaller bulb and it has a ground spade to the fixture and the yellow wire connects right to the end of the blub.

Thanks Sorry for the misdirection.

Scotty

 

[kmagnuss]

As far as I know, the dip beams are the most outward lights, when in the low beam setting. But who knows, I could have this whole thing totally backwards. :think:

 

[Scotty]

Ok here is the light bulb on the drivers side. High beam

Here is the high beam on the passengers side.

which one should it be? :? :?


Thanks

Scotty

 

[munichp38a]

Definitely the first one (H1 bulb here in Europe), I changed my main (the part of the light nearer to the grille)/dipped lights to Osram Nightbreakers and the mains looked like your drivers side lamp.

It seems the dealer had no more bulbs left over when changing the headlight for the previous owner and someone got creative...

Sigi

 

[RRToadHall]

:shock: H1 bubs are what we use over here for our under bumper fogs!

Scotty, it sure sounds like someone has seriously fouled with your wiring during the so called "upgrade" to the newer lamp housings.

 

[Scotty]

Which one do I want? Which one is correct?
The car wireing is correct, when I put the lights in the bulbs were in the fixtures thats why I didn't notice this then, all I did was plug in the pig tails and bolt the fixtures in.

Scotty

 

[RRToadHall]

I have now checked three P38a bulb sets today and all three have the H4 (9003) low beams and 9005 high beams.

One thought that comes to mind is that onw of your assemblies is a EU spec and the other is an NAS spec. Munichp38A noted that they use the H1 bulb across the pond. We use the 9005 here. If the housings are different that would account for the change in plug.

I would try putting the 9005 from your passenger side into the housing on the drivers side. If it actually fits I would run out and pick up a light bulb tail and rewire it to the 9005. If it doesn't fit, just put an H1 in and live with it. Since these are high beams you won't be using them all the time and folks won't notice any difference in lighting.

 

[kmagnuss]

Don't listen to toad...he's an idiot. If you have differing bulbs in your P it will explode. *in my best Chris Farley voice* "I know from experience dude!"

 

[RRToadHall]

Don't listen to toad...he's an idiot. If you have differing bulbs in your P it will explode. *in my best Chris Farley voice* "I know from experience dude!"

Then you can claim it on insurance and replace the truck instead of just the bulb! :lol:

 

[Scotty]

nice, so when explodes do I buy a euro P38 with the H1 lights or do I buy an american P38 with the 9005?

Scotty