[umbertob]

You never know... I don't have a 2010 to try it. The procedure to access the Diagnostics PIN Entry screen on a 2010 touchscreen is slightly different than 2006-2009s. From the Home Menu screen, you first press and hold the top center of the display for at least 5 seconds - like you did with the "old" version - but then you need to press and hold the top left corner of the screen (more or less where the word "Home" is.) After 5 seconds you should get the good 'ole Diag PIN Entry screen. Since the diagnostics access code is the same as in the past (753 and OK), I figured you might want to try 1791 and OK to see if, by some miracle, the navigation on the move capabilities are unlocked as they used to on MY2006s.

 

[phil.]

for the good of forum members and since i'm experienced with doing this code for a MY2006 RRS, i humbly volunteer myself to check this out. i'll need a 2010. i think it's good to start with an S/C for one day and i'll focus on the HSE the following day. taking a cue from an LR SA, you can submit your vehicle in the morning and pick it up some time in the afternoon. i'll even cover your enterprise rental for the day

 

[gooseyloosey]

Phil, seeing such generousity is what makes this time of year and the holidays special for me.

 

[949BFN]

I’ve never had to use this, since Nav on the move was not previously disabled in SA. (It is however now on the 2010 models). I ran down to my car to try this out, but did not get further the initial screen password screen. After entering 753 and OK, there is no further opportunity to enter any further codes. (Or should I’ve entered the 1791 code in place of 753?) There are obviously a few configuration and other data screens, but no further screen(s) allowing any further numeric input.

 

[umbertob]

You should have entered 1791 instead of 753, then press OK and see what happens... That's the way you would enable it on MY06. Also, if you do enter 753 and end up in the main Diagnostics menu, look under Vehicle Configurations. There is a button on the upper right corner called "Speed Lock Configuration", touch that and see if there is anything you can modify on the screen that follows - probably not, as if it's like the MY06-09 diagnostics there is pretty much nothing you can modify from the various information screens. I think that's the screen that tells you which switches in your car are locked out when moving, by displaying the status (0 = enabled, 1 = disabled, such as the satnav here in North America), and Land Rover probably modifies their default status at the factory depending on the market the cars go to. Back to the main Diags menu, touch Vehicle Signals. There should be a "Speed Inhibit" button on the following menu, what's that? Does it say "on" or "off" in your car, and can you change its status? Play around and have fun, you might get lucky! :lol: Worst case scenario, turning off the engine and letting the system recycle for a couple of minutes (all electronics shut down) will likely reset everything to the default configuration the next time you "reboot" the system, just as it did on MY06-09s.

 

[BWB RRS HSE]

Got to the pin screen - the PIN 1791 did not gain entry.

 

[umbertob]

What happens after you enter the 1791 - OK code? Does the keypad come back on the screen or do you get booted out of diagnostics?

 

[BWB RRS HSE]

What happens after you enter the 1791 - OK code? Does the keypad come back on the screen or do you get booted out of diagnostics?

After the code is punched in and entered, it just ignores it and waits for the next pin entry. I tried a bunch of corner key combinations 1731, 3973 etc. with no luck, proly did it 20 times and kept waiting for the right pin - it did not boot me. Does this help?

 

[umbertob]

When the 1791 code was accepted on the MY06, the keypad would stay on the monitor, as if the entry had failed... See step-by-step thread: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7209 You'd then exit diagnostics and drive around. The buttons that would normally "gray out" when moving would then become selectable. So, after you enter 1791 and press OK on your 2010 touchscreen keypad, can you exit diagnostics? What happens after that (driving around), are the speed restrictions still in place?

 

[phil.]

yeah that's helpful as that's the same way it behaved before. after you enter the 1791 and are returned to the PIN entry screen, go ahead and exit out to the main navigation screen or even the address entry screen. then go for a drive and see if you can enter in an address.

 

[umbertob]

Unfortunately (judging only by what I see on the shop manual), I don't think there is a "Return" button on the 2010 diags PIN entry screen allowing you to exit back to the main menu after you punch in a code, as there is on our 2006s. The only way to exit (without rebooting) would be to enter an acceptable PIN that takes you to the diagnostics main menu, and from there you can then exit. So, I have a bad feeling that 1791 does nothing on the 2010s, it is just an invalid code. Oh well. I still wish I could poke around the diagnostics to see if there is another back door. All I need is $70,000, give or take. I am so used to being able to operate my satnav without restrictions while in motion, it would be real tough to go back to punching in addresses like a maniac while at a stoplight.

 

[phil.]

I am so used to being able to operate my satnav without restrictions while in motion, it would be real tough to go back to punching in addresses like a maniac while at a stoplight.

are we to interpret that as a 2010 being in your driveway with a big red bow on it this winter?

 

[BWB RRS HSE]

Unfortunately (judging only by what I see on the shop manual), I don't think there is a "Return" button on the 2010 diags PIN entry screen allowing you to exit back to the main menu after you punch in a code, as there is on our 2006s. The only way to exit (without rebooting) would be to enter an acceptable PIN that takes you to the diagnostics main menu, and from there you can then exit. So, I have a bad feeling that 1791 does nothing on the 2010s, it is just an invalid code. Oh well. I still wish I could poke around the diagnostics to see if there is another back door. All I need is $70,000, give or take. I am so used to being able to operate my satnav without restrictions while in motion, it would be real tough to go back to punching in addresses like a maniac while at a stoplight.

OK did all of the above. Yes without PIN, most buttons "dark out" over 5 or so MPH. Stopped vehicle, got to PIN screen, input 1791 and drove, nothing happened. Stopped, got back to PIN screen reentered PIN and then the "back arrow" key, went for a drive and the same buttons darked out again. Looks like the back door is closed. Fun to monkey around with 8) .

 

[949BFN]

Touching "Speed Lock Information" brings up this screen:

No possibility of configuring anything there.
The SMS option looks interesting though! If that does what one expects it will do, that would really be a very nice feature to have.

 

[rcmorgan540]

I have yet to play with the nav in my 2010. I used the 06 one a bit. It seems more cumbersome on the surface ... I would love to see sms messages in the dispay ... the headline would read .. "Tiger Woods sweves off the road while sexting with his whore in Las Vegas. Suit is forthcoming against LRNA for allowing this function in motion." On a serious note , I would like to see a thread on the 2010 nav started with useful tips.

 

[geflackt]

What might be interesting if there is some sort of serial port on the computer that's running the display. The 2010's are supposedly running the QNX Neutrino OS - which is a true RTOS that I have been using in my own products. If there is a serial port, a small adapter could be built. Of course, the OS may be locked out by user/pw but it's worth a shot. This may allow for other apps and possibilities.

 

[andrewj7]

Anyone know where said serial port might be? I'd be interested in checking it out. Perhaps I can prod around at the USB port incase it's in there.

 

[Megan]

I am so used to being able to operate my satnav without restrictions while in motion, it would be real tough to go back to punching in addresses like a maniac while at a stoplight.

Please, please, pleeeeeeeeease can someone figure this out for my 2010. I'm currently the biggest eveeeeer stop light manic!!!!!!!!!!!

Makes we want a TomTom!