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for the past few days ive been hearing a loose rattling noise up front and I thought it was my water pump going bad or one of the bearing. So I take off the little plastic cover that covers the fan and I check everything and everything was fine until I checked the fan itself and see that its loose and has lots or play in it. The clutch itself is sold and fine, but the plastic fan is loose. I was looking to see where the fan is tightened but wasn't able to find anything. Where do I tighten this fan?
 

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You'll have to take it out with the clutch and tighten the allen bolts. At least that is how it is on the GEMS, idk about the BOSCH.
 

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turns out my fan is very loose and broken by the bolts, so I have to replace the fan, however, I hate removing the fan clutch though, can I remove the fan w/o removing the clutch? Also, will all 95-02 Range Rover fans work? Are they all the same regardless of 4.0 or 4.6?
 

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nope - sorry - the fan is bolted to the clutch mech which is then bolted to the waterpump shaft. So clutch and fan come off as one piece. They are fairly simple to get off without specialist tools.

Personally I wouldn't drive or start the car in that condition, as even though they are just plastic, I have seen the fan blades penetrate the bonnet, and heck knows what other bits could get munched up in that area - lots of hoses.

 

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my old discovery fans looked like that, my range fan doesnt have the round circle over the blades??? When Ive searched EBAY, I get some with and some without the circle
 

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I hate this job more than any job. well I do have the the round circle over the fan, I wasnt sure though. I am trying to remove those (4) allen screws thats screws into the fan clutch holding the blade together but I can since there is NO room. I really hate removing the fan clutch since it never wants to come off. Anyway to remove just the (4) screws??? Also, i was looking on the main site and it says I should unloosen the big 36mm bolt by:

"To remove the clutch from the drove shaft you just turn the 36mm nut on the front of it. The direction can be figured out by the fact that the thread is designed to tighten itself when the engine drives the fan. SO look at the fan blades and figure out which way the engine turns. Then turn the nut the same way to loosen it."


shouldnt I be turning the opposite way as the arrow points on the clutch?
 

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JaguarS4R said:
shouldnt I be turning the opposite way as the arrow points on the clutch?
No, you need to turn in the direction of the arrow.
Remember, under normal operating conditions, the motor drives the fan. When you turn the nut, you actually turn the fan with respect to the motor, thus loosening it. :wink:

Not sure about the V8s, but the DT/DSE has the fan fixed with something I can only describe as headless bolts: nice round and domeshaped. Only solution was to drill them out or drill a hole and use a left threaded taper.
 

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JaguarS4R said:
I hate this job more than any job. well I do have the the round circle over the fan, I wasnt sure though. I am trying to remove those (4) allen screws thats screws into the fan clutch holding the blade together but I can since there is NO room. I really hate removing the fan clutch since it never wants to come off. Anyway to remove just the (4) screws??? Also, i was looking on the main site and it says I should unloosen the big 36mm bolt by:

"To remove the clutch from the drove shaft you just turn the 36mm nut on the front of it. The direction can be figured out by the fact that the thread is designed to tighten itself when the engine drives the fan. SO look at the fan blades and figure out which way the engine turns. Then turn the nut the same way to loosen it."


shouldnt I be turning the opposite way as the arrow points on the clutch?
:shock:

They come off super easy. On the V8s they are standard thread. If you are standing in front of the eingine it's is regular righty tighty/lefty loosey. Stick a wrench on it and from above give it a whack with a hammer towards the passenger/left side. This pops the nut loose and you can easily spin it off from there.
 

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my brother took his BMW to get cooling parts changed, the so called mechanics at the "discount " garage used the long screw driver hammer method to get the fan out, to bad they didnt realize that BMW's fan was reverse threads
 

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I was stumped on this one too. I bought a tool from the local parts shop but it did not fit the rover so I ordered a special tool to do this. It was surprisingly easy to get off with that special tool http://www.difflock.com/buyersguide/new ... ndex.shtml

It certainly makes it easier to change things like the hoses around the radiator with the fan out.
 

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i understand that its easy, but when I turn the nut with the wrench, the whole fan any everything moves along with it including serpentine belt, how do I stop everything from moving? Remember, all im using is that 36mm clutch fan wrench so im able to put the breaker bar on it
 

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JaguarS4R said:
i understand that its easy, but when I turn the nut with the wrench, the whole fan any everything moves along with it including serpentine belt, how do I stop everything from moving? Remember, all im using is that 36mm clutch fan wrench so im able to put the breaker bar on it
Did you use the hammer as I posted above? If you did it will break right loose. If you are just pulling the wrench you aren't going to be able to break it loose with everything turning.
 

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you need a second tool that locks the fan pulley from turning by grabbing the nuts or jamming in between the nuts and the shaft
 

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I used an old sawblade with a big hole drilled in the end so that it would fit on one of the bolts on the water pump pulley.

It was a rather thick (1-2mm) and long sawblade though, but I don't know where it came from, a friend had the idea and drilled it out for me.

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JaguarS4R said:
i understand that its easy, but when I turn the nut with the wrench, the whole fan any everything moves along with it including serpentine belt, how do I stop everything from moving? Remember, all im using is that 36mm clutch fan wrench so im able to put the breaker bar on it
Did you use the hammer as I posted above? If you did it will break right loose. If you are just pulling the wrench you aren't going to be able to break it loose with everything turning.
thanks a lot, i used the hammer and it worked. anyone know why some RR have 36mm nuts and some 32mm? mines a 36 but the one i need to get off at the junk yard is 32mm? I dont need the clutch, so I can reuse my clutch I just need the blade itself.

also, how do I tighten without everything moving?
 

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good hand tight is enough, as the thread direction means the engine turning is tightening it up and it wont ever come off.
 
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