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Guys, my maf went bad due to a leak in my stock air box with OEM paper filter.

I ordered up a new MAF and a cone filter. I am going to give it a try.

I have been burned on my Audi's in the past with K&N drop in filters coincidentally my MAF's went bad shortly there after. One MAF died shortly after dropping in a K&N filter into the car after buying it new.

Anyways, I bought a no name brand cone filter on ebay and the sellers instructions were to oil and clean like a K&N filter.

Any Rover owners with cone style filters installed directly onto the MAF?
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I don't think this is a good move as your engine will be getting air from inside the engine bay which is hot and therefore lower in O.

Also, oil + MAF = Dead MAF very soon.

Sid.
Hey medcapequip, I sent you a p.m. and posted on the for sale forum regarding your request for the top of your air box, I got it if your intrested! Sorry to here about your MAF..

Scotty
medcapequip said:
Guys, my maf went bad due to a leak in my stock air box with OEM paper filter.

I ordered up a new MAF and a cone filter. I am going to give it a try.

I have been burned on my Audi's in the past with K&N drop in filters coincidentally my MAF's went bad shortly there after. One MAF died shortly after dropping in a K&N filter into the car after buying it new.
I am confused as to your train of thought here. Your air box had broken tabs which caused the filter element not to stay in place. You have also had issues with oiled filters in the past. So having blown MAFs with oil filters in the past you have ordered another oiled filter for your P38? I must be misisng something in the picture, right? :think:
medcapequip said:
Any Rover owners with cone style filters installed directly onto the MAF?
Do you mean somthing simmerlar to my set up?

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The itg filters are like other foam filters in that they aren't really supposed to damage a hotwire MAF. I think (dare I say the name) Britpart have a new range of blue filters which are selected to fit a range of Land Rover vehicles. These again are dry filters from what I've read about them.

@ Tango: What MAF if fitted to your GEMS system on the Purple Beast? It doesn't look like the OE Sagem unit. Is it an itg kit which also has a built in Air Intake Temperature sensor somewhere? :think:
Rich998a said:
The itg filters are like other foam filters in that they aren't really supposed to damage a hotwire MAF. I think (dare I say the name) Britpart have a new range of blue filters which are selected to fit a range of Land Rover vehicles. These again are dry filters from what I've read about them.

@ Tango: What MAF if fitted to your GEMS system on the Purple Beast? It doesn't look like the OE Sagem unit. Is it an itg kit which also has a built in Air Intake Temperature sensor somewhere? :think:
Yea its got the sensor behind, would go take annother picture for you showing where it is but its cold in the garage and I no longer have socks on. :roll:

I've not come across these oil filters before. Sorry if I'm hijacking the thread to some extent, but whats the idea behind them? Does dust and suchlike stick to the oil as is passes through the filter? Does that not clog the filter and restrict airflow faster than a normal dry filter? Do they come in a bright variety of colours and normally appear on 1.nothing litre saxo's with cut coils?
Generally, however hard you try to oil a filter correctly, it gets overdone. I think certain filters, like these foam filters, can reduce the problem of oil being sucked into the inlet. The K&N uses a cotton gauze. Not sure on the whole science thing, but I have read a report on Bob's the oil guy essentially saying that K&N's let all sorts of crap into the inlet, but it does offer better breathing for better combustion.

I use Alive Tuning (formally Td5 Alive) to get any customer's diesel vehicles running perkier, and they use the ITG filters. I also notice they offer an oil aerosol for the filter, but I'm not convinced the filters are the foam type.

Anyway, I wouldn't worry too much. I swapped back to a paper filter from a K&N replacement elemet which ended the life of my last MAF. The new MAF is only 3 or 4 years old now and that is playing up again. T4 shows the flow registered at 17 or 18 when it should be more like 22. My kickdown is getting less and less operative and I expect there will be a DTC thrown soon. And I've only used paper filters in there. :think:

@Tango: Very nice LPG setup. You hardly know it is there. I looked at one last week and I could'nt see the top of the engine for LPG kit!
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