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Hello All,

This is my first post and I was hoping someone out there could help me. I have a 2001 Range Rover and the instrument cluster recently had issues. None of the needles moved and the display went out. The only thing that worked was the airbag light. I took it into a Land Rover specialist and found that my instrument cluster was the issue and needed to be replaced. I found a used one on eBay and installed it. Everything works great now but the odometer is off and I get the "Odometer Error" message.

The shop that did the diagnostic repair said as long as the replacement instrument cluster has less miles than what the actually mileage is, that the odometer could be synced with the actual on the BECM. However, they wanted to charge another $240 to do it so I started shopping around.

Here's the problem. I contacted another Land Rover specialist that sounded like he knew what he was talking about, and he informed me that it CAN NOT be done. He said the only way was to replace both the instrument cluster and the BECM.

Next I contacted the Land Rover dealer and spoke with the service department who conferred with the Service Foreman, and they told me that the only way the odometer could be synced is if I purchased a NEW instrument cluster ($1800) and not a used one.

So now I don't know what's correct. Again, my car has approximately 130K miles and I replaced the instrument cluster with one that shows around 65K miles. One shop said as long as the cluster is lower than the BECM odometer, it CAN be synced. Another shop said that it's impossible to changed the odometer reading on the cluster. And the dealer told me that it's possible to sync the odometer only if I had purchased a NEW cluster.

So who's correct? Can I sync the odometer on my replacement used cluster to match the actual mileage of my Rover?

Any feedback is appreciated!

Thanks,

E.
 

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That is interesting, as I was under the impression that the cluster would adopt the mileage from the BECM by itself if the cluster showed the lower number, and that the BECM would adopt the mileage from the cluster if the mileage on the cluster is higher.
I am sure this has been covered before, try a search?
The good news for you is that one of a handfull of Becm experts lives just up the road from you. If Scotty (Becm Doctor) does not know this one, I would be stunned!
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Such a shame that folks dont think of either searching or asking these questions, BEFORE they go to dealers etc.
Looks like you went to three "specialists" so far, and at least two are so wrong they need to hang up the Yugo sign over the Rover sign....
Shoot Scotty a PM, or email his at www.becmdoctor.com

He is the ONLY one that I would trust to answer your question, besides being an overall good guy. Dont repeat that or I'll just deny the hell out of it....lol

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HA........ :lol:



Such a shame that folks dont think of either searching or asking these questions, BEFORE they go to dealers etc.
Looks like you went to three "specialists" so far, and at least two are so wrong they need to hang up the Yugo sign over the Rover sign....
Shoot Scotty a PM, or email his at www.becmdoctor.com

He is the ONLY one that I would trust to answer your question, besides being an overall good guy. Dont repeat that or I'll just deny the hell out of it....lol

Martin
 

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PM sent....
 

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Could someone please port the answer after the dust has settled.
I have a 2001 with a mileage display that is slowly disappearing and may have to contemplate a instrument cluster change.

Thanks in advance.
 

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Could someone please port the answer after the dust has settled.
I have a 2001 with a mileage display that is slowly disappearing and may have to contemplate a instrument cluster change.

Thanks in advance.
No need to replace the entire cluster for a simple fading/failing text display. After you read the existing posts feel free to start your own thread with details so we don;t confuse the different topics.
 

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Could someone please port the answer after the dust has settled.
I have a 2001 with a mileage display that is slowly disappearing and may have to contemplate a instrument cluster change.

Thanks in advance.
If you end up replacing the cluster, get one from Scotty and he will make sure it works perfectly. He may need your Becm to do it right, but it WILL be right at the end of the day.

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Thank you all for the responses. Yes I did do my fair share of research before going into a shop but there was no way of definitively knowing whether it was an issue with my cluster itself or the BECM, so a visit to a shop was needed. And it wasn't simply an issue of "fading/failing text display". As requested, I will post the final outcome once the "dust has settled".

Seems like all fingers point to the "doctor"! =)
 

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Just realized that RRToadHall was responding to dnssandbox and not to me so please disregard my comment about my issue being more than a "fading/failing text" problem. =)
 

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No worries, it's easy to read a reply and think it's aimed at you. Just because this is your thread and all.....:lol:

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Short answer...

Yes

With diagnostics you can update the instrument cluster to take the mileage of the BECM. Nanocom has an Odometer Sync option in the BECM utilities that will do this.

If you put in a higher mileage cluster than BECM then the BECM will AUTOMATICALLY take the higher mileage, no warning, sync required.. Many people have put more miles on their vehicle unwittingly but just swapping a higher mileage cluster in.

If you put in a cluster with a lower mileage (as you have done) then you get the error, and it won't automatically update until done with diagnostics.

It can be done with the BECM in the vehicle as I mentioned with faultmate/Nanocom. Maybe see if you can find someone local who can help you (not sure where you are as I'm on my mobile and it doesn't automatically show location) or failing that send the bits to Scotty.

Such a shame that folks dont think of either searching or asking these questions, BEFORE they go to dealers etc.
Looks like you went to three "specialists" so far, and at least two are so wrong they need to hang up the Yugo sign over the Rover sign....
Shoot Scotty a PM, or email his at www.becmdoctor.com

He is the ONLY one that I would trust to answer your question, besides being an overall good guy. Dont repeat that or I'll just deny the hell out of it....lol

Martin
I'm almost offended... Just coz I'm on the other side of the pond doesn't mean I had my brain erased when I entered the country :p

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We have an appointment with him and I'll sort it all out

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I'm almost offended... Just coz I'm on the other side of the pond doesn't mean I had my brain erased when I entered the country :p

Marty
Seeing as the OP's location never showed up for you......... He is just over an hour away from Scotty, assuming the idiotic traffic around LA allows travel at more than a 3.5MPH average that is. Thus him being the only one there I would trust to do it right and not keep giving false information etc.
Now had he been back in the Motherland, your name would have been inserted where Scotty's was!

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Hahaha, I know...I'm.just pulling your leg because I can :)
 

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Could someone please port the answer after the dust has settled.
I have a 2001 with a mileage display that is slowly disappearing and may have to contemplate a instrument cluster change.

Thanks in advance.
Aloha,
Good news for you!
Depending on what you mean by :A "Slowly fading display" is very likely being caused by one of the back light bulbs being burnt out. Thus you will lose one side of the display or the other....Possibly the center, as I do not recall whether there are 2 or 3 bulbs. Check that first as it would be a shame to change the whole cluster when it's as simple as screwing in a light bulb!
 

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There's 3 bulbs, one in the centre and one each side. If the centre and one side one has blown then it will look like the display is fading.
 

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Aloha,
Good news for you!
Depending on what you mean by :A "Slowly fading display" is very likely being caused by one of the back light bulbs being burnt out. Thus you will lose one side of the display or the other....Possibly the center, as I do not recall whether there are 2 or 3 bulbs. Check that first as it would be a shame to change the whole cluster when it's as simple as screwing in a light bulb!

Thanks. I don't think/Know if it is a bulb, but I will take a picture and start a new three tomorrow.
 

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