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Hello my esteemed Range Rover connoisseurs,

I come to you seeking your Range Rover guidance. I have a 2000 4.6 HSE. I bought it used and the dealer told me the windows, moonroof, and mirrors' controls didnt respond.
these are all the elements on the Center Console Switch Pack. I looked through this site's p38A forum and found that this problem often occurs because the switch pack is "dirty" or dead. (I do NOT know how this problem came to be. The dealer said that it only occurred recently as the truck had been on the lot for a few weeks.)

I took the switch pack out and cleaned it, although it wasnt really that dirty, and put it back in today but it didnt fix my problem. The fuses are all fine as well (1, 9, 22 et al).

This is what does and doesnt work:

None of the windows open whether I use the buttons on the center console switch pack or the switches on the rear doors.
-----Leads me to assume wiring harness?
The center console switch pack's LIGHT lights up when i turn on my head lamps.
-----Dont really know what to make of this except that the BECM is distributing power to the switch pack.
The truck's message center says that the Sunroof is Open.
-----The car still knows there are windows?


The truck has been fitted with the spring coils and the EAS overridden with an Atlantic British override module. I took out the BECM and unplugged all the sockets, dusted them off, replugged them and that didnt fix the problem. The EAS override module occupies the C114 (green 20 pin) slot and the "cartridge" that went into that slot has be looped through the module. All the components of the C114 cartridge are functioning just fine.

I have attached photos of the switch panel board. Are there burns on it ? I cant tell... I compared it to AVRO's photo:
viewtopic.php?t=8642&highlight= and mine looks similar but not the same (i dont have a crack and i cant tell where AVRO's burns are).


Will changing the switch pack get my windows to open, given its taking current (ie the light lights up)? Is the switch pack the culprit (given the rear windows dont open from their own switches)? If its not the switch pack should I proceed to change the center console wiring harness (or not, given that the console's light is lighting up)?

Thank you in advance,

M
 

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You are not alone, mine is doing the exact same thing! I have not tried cleaning the switch pack yet... its on my list to do tonight...

No windows, no sunroof, lights up with headlights.

Any one have any other ideas?

Thanks!
 

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Upboardin,

I looked at a sticky on the forum's main page. It said that this console problem could also be because of a weak battery.
I havent yet checked that but Ill get a voltmeter and let you know.
I dont think its the battery though because every other electrical component works just swell...
 

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Well I was thinking that too, however the battery is only 2 months old (replaced by the previous owner), voltages show acceptable per the sticky.

Going to test it again and clean all of the earth contacts tonight to see if that helps
 

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I cleaned off the battery, put it across the voltmeter, and got acceptable results according to the 'sticky' on the forum main page. Still, though, the windows were non-op...
 

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Well I retested mine this evening, it appears that my alternator may be weak after all.

At 2000 RPM with no load the battery tested at 13.60 volts, under load it measured 12.93 volts

Tested across the alternator no load at 2000 RPM 14.24 volts, under load 14.11
 

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So, I just ordered a Switch Panel from ebay. I got it for $60 with free shipping from seller: directautopart. Its half the price that carcannibal wanted for it. Im going to, of course, try it out and hopefully itll resolve the problem. Ill let you know what happens in a few days.
 

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I had the same problem. Parked the vehicle for a week while away, came back and the windows, mirrors, sunroof no longer worked.
Stop pulling your hair out. Replace the switch pack. Why or how these switch packs die so easily is a mystery - but dead it is. Unfortunately, no-one has yet figured out how to repair it so the only option is to replace it. look on ebay (you can find them relatively cheaply) and get one from a trusted seller with a guarantee.
Good luck.
 

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They work!

It was in fact the center console switch pack. After replacing it I was able to operate all the windows and mirrors once again.
I appreciate all you input and good luck!
Let me know if I can provide you with any other assistance.
 

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Hi Guys,

I think I may have an issue with my switch pack too. The console switch for the front passenger window will put the window down, but not back up. Do you think it could be a switch pack issue? I have not taken it apart yet because it's still winter here but I'd like to resolve it soon. I'd hate to buy an expensive switch pack for just one window function. Any ideas would be helpful. Thanks! :think:
 

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Gemmiti,

If its only one window it could be the switchpack or the window regulator or simply the fuse for the Left Front Window (fuse number 22 under the passenger seat).

Its easy to check if its the fuse, just look at it.
If its not the fuse, check the switch pack by taking it apart.
-----> to take the switch pack apart just remove the 2 screws from the top of it and then 9/10 hex screws from the pack
-----> see if the switch for the driver window isnt sticky with goop (thats a common reason for problems like yours)
-----> if its got goop on it, then clean it off with rubbing alcohol and a q-tip
-----> then plug it in and see if it does the trick

If that doesnt work I'd check the window regulator....

good luck!

ps. as long as the other windows are working i wouldnt replace the switch pack, if its the switch pack then usually all the windows wont function not just one window. if its just one window, from what ive collected on this forum, its usually just goop.
 

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Thanks mazenkh21, I'll try this as soon as I can. I'm thinking you are right on with the goop theory. I was able to get the window back up using the key in the door lock so I think the regulator is ok. I'm guessing it's just the up button on the switch is dirty. I'm thankful for the help, It's easier to ask someone who's delt with it before than figure it out on your own.

Thanks! ;)
 
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