[Gazellio]

Who was aware that the British version of the new 5.0l Supercharged V8 has considerably more Torque at much lower revs than it US Brother:

UK Version: 510 PS (375 kW; 503 hp) @6000-6500, 625 N·m (461 ft·lbf) @2000-2500?

US (International) Version: 510 PS (375 kW; 503 hp) @5750, 560 N·m (413 ft·lbf) @6000-6500

Not as much and at such low revs as the 3.6l TDV8 though: 271 PS (199 kW; 267 hp)@4000, 640 N·m (472 lb·ft)@2000

 

[RRToadHall]

How much of the difference is due to EPA tuning and emmisions standards for the same engine? :think:

 

[linuxfreakus]

Well... if true, that doesn't necessarily mean it is the engine that is to blame... probably all in the software or other tweaks. Would be silly to design two different engines.

 

[umbertob]

Hmm, not sure where you got some of those "International" numbers? Here is a chart with engine data released by Land Rover for all its models, 2006-present. Matches the data posted on LRUSA's site for the 5-liter S/C engine.

 

[Mirage]

Max Power: 510bhp @ 6,500rpm - 375kw
Max Torque: 461lb ft/lb @ 2,500rpm - 625Nm
Taken directly from the CND/US website, it's exactly the same as the UK version, the place you got that US info from probably made a mistake.

 

[Gazellio]

Sorry guys I was relying on this:

I checked the US LR site too and the figures posted are the same as UK so I guess Wiki have got it wrong once again :think:

PS: TDV8 still has more Torque though and 25mpg :lol:

 

[linuxfreakus]

I agree, it is a shame we can't get the TDV8 here in the states. I would actually pay extra for that if it was available... not because of fuel economy (it wouldn't really save me money)... I just like diesels.

In theory if you are willing to go through all sorts of bureaucratic/goverment approval/permit nonsense, you can have one specially approved and shipped over at GREAT expense, but I don't have that sort of cash or time.

 

[Gazellio]

I agree, it is a shame we can't get the TDV8 here in the states. I would actually pay extra for that if it was available... not because of fuel economy (it wouldn't really save me money)... I just like diesels.

In theory if you are willing to go through all sorts of bureaucratic/goverment approval/permit nonsense, you can have one specially approved and shipped over at GREAT expense, but I don't have that sort of cash or time.

Shipping is quite cheap actually but I am not sure about the cost of Type Approval Etc.. I ship Muscle Cars from Houston to London in a container for $1500 + $300 for Insurance etc. I guess you would need a German/French TDV8 RR so that is was LHD although there is LHD market in the UK for used Land Rovers. You would get the excellent remote pre-heater too :dance:

 

[linuxfreakus]

Yeah, I actually looked into it. It's next to impossible to import a car (for on-road use/registration) to the US if the manufacturer hasn't passed DOT and EPA compliance. Basically the process would entail complying the vehicle yourself. This is a very expensive process. There is a list of registered import shops somewhere on the EPA website.

The only alternative is to import an older one which predates the regulations, but in that case I could find one locally too. The shipping is the easy part.

:crybaby2:

 

[Gazellio]

Autoblog.com:

"I believe Land Rover has already expressed intentions to bring the TDV8 stateside before 2010. Currently, TDV6 represents the entry-level RRS trim while TDV8 is slotted between the HSE and SC. When it does cross the Pond, base price (before options) will likely be in a range of low to mid 60's consistent with that strategy. For $100K you can fully load up a "proper" Range Rover S/C and probably still have a few dollars left to pay for gas."

Some hope maybe?

 

[linuxfreakus]

Indeed, there are dim rays of hope, but so far the only companies willing to navigate this minefield have been VW and Mercedes, and even then they are only legal in 45 states (so just can't be registered in any of the five states, but still fine to drive there if registered elsewhere). California in particular seems to have something against diesel engines in general.

Autoblog.com:

"I believe Land Rover has already expressed intentions to bring the TDV8 stateside before 2010. Currently, TDV6 represents the entry-level RRS trim while TDV8 is slotted between the HSE and SC. When it does cross the Pond, base price (before options) will likely be in a range of low to mid 60's consistent with that strategy. For $100K you can fully load up a "proper" Range Rover S/C and probably still have a few dollars left to pay for gas."

Some hope maybe?

 

[ddesbiens]

Lots of us over here like diesels, unfortunately Euro manufacturers seem to hire deaf NA marketing VPs - other than a diesel Jetta TDI, there doesn't appear to be much selection - The BMWs are as rare as hen's teeth over here - I drive 220 mi per day commute and have never seen one - MB is available but that appeals only to some and not me.

 

[Gazellio]

Lots of us over here like diesels, unfortunately Euro manufacturers seem to hire deaf NA marketing VPs - other than a diesel Jetta TDI, there doesn't appear to be much selection - The BMWs are as rare as hen's teeth over here - I drive 220 mi per day commute and have never seen one - MB is available but that appeals only to some and not me.

I wonder why MB and not LR?

 

[Norval]

European diesels in Canada:
Volkswagen ( Toureg and others)
Mercedes Benz
Bmw ( x5 and others)
Audi (Q7 and some others)
Smart