[sbkim]

Hello everyone,

My wife just returned from the dealer URGING her to change her front pads for $700 immediately. Based on my visual inspection, the front pads didn't look THAT bad. It's hard to measure but there appears to be at least 1/2" of pad left. The car has 24,000 miles and is supercharged (Brembo).

Attached is picture of one of the side (least amount of pads, the other side looks a bit better). Do you think I need to replace ASAP or could I drive it for another 3-4k miles with easy braking? No warning lights yet.

Thank you

 

[Guest]

That pad has a very short life, and the sensor is about to be turned on. Your dealer is correct, your pad need to be changed.

 

[rafa]

Hi sbkim;

If it's just pads then $700 is high. My dealer is doing my pads next week for $199 on my HSE LUX. I have a feeling that your dealer wants to do the rotors as well. 24k miles sounds a little early to be doing the rotors.
Check out this post as a reference viewtopic.php?f=5&t=36671

Rafa

 

[mark511]

it can't be $700 for the pad service only. i just came back from the dealer for my 30k service. i was told my front pads and rotors (4mm remaining) needed to be replaced. price quote was $750. lifespan of the front pads and rotors is usually less than 30k.

 

[sbkim]

OK - got it. I will find out how much just to do the pads.

Thanks

 

[Frisco_TX_RRS]

Can't really see the pic well, but seems you have some meat left to do more miles. Again, depends on your driving ( City \ h'way) as to how many more miles. Look for an indy shop that does LR's preferably. Most reputable indy shops can do this simple brake work for you at a much lower cost. Find out how much they will charge just for parts and labor, check out the sponsors on the site, you might be able to get a break on the parts cost and possibly order it and take it with you to the indy shop. If you have changed pads before, its very easy and Goosey has done an excellent write up.

 

[1953]

They are on some good crack and not sharing :naughty:


I have an 08 RRSSC I have 30K on my front pads, and they are a little less than 50% gone ( mine look thicker than the pic posted above), when I looked at them at the dealer this past friday, even the tech said they didn't need new pads, and couldn't believe I haven't changed them yet. Keep in mind that 98% of my driving is all highway 70+ mph.

You can get a complete kit and replace the front and rear pads, rotors, and sensors from Atlantic British for $849.95. I ordered this Kit last week, to be prepared for when mine needs it.



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EBC Sport Rotors are designed for heavier trucks like your Rover and are especially good on lifted trucks or in towing applications. These rotors are dimpled and offer a wider slot that provides better cooling, while expelling dust and dirt better than fine slotted rotors. Since they are dimpled (not cross-drilled), mud and grime does not lodge in drill holes and the dimples actually shed dirt and mud well.

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Kit includes the following components:
# Product ID Description Qty. Required Qty. In Stock Cost
1 8854EBC
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2 8856EBC
Brake Rotors - Rear - EBC Performance - Pair 1 Yes! $292.95
3 SEM500026
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[gooseyloosey]

OK - got it. I will find out how much just to do the pads.

Thanks

A good mechanic can probably do pads only on both sides (reusing old sensor) in 1 hr. But, since they like to round up, a shop will charge you 1.5-2hrs. 1.5 hrs x labor rate + pads would be a good price in NJ, 2 hrs tops.

Just give those rotors a light sanding on both sides.

Not sure why one side would be worn appreciably more than the other. If that's really the case and not an optical illusion--it would be worth a question to the dealer.

 

[sbkim]

Thank you so much everyone. I am a bit busy right now with work so I wasn't sure if I could defer the brake job until next month. My wife drives the car at most 100miles per week so I didn't think that was going to be an issue. Of course, dealer made it sound like her brakes will fail shortly 8-0=

gooseyloosey - I will have to print out your write up and see if I can do it at home. I've done brakes on several cars but never on RRSC. I am mostly concerned with jacking the car - hopefully my jacks will raise enough...

 

[rohams]

My dashboard break light came on and I also got the "check break pads" message on my 2006 RRS HSE. Obviously I need to change my pads, but I have a few questions as I don't want to deal with the dealership expenses and want to order the parts myself and replace them in an independent shop:
- When the light just comes on does it mean that I need to change the rotors as well? I have heard stories that with RR every time I change the pad I need to change the rotor too.
- How do I know whether it is front pads or rear pads that need to be changed? If the light has just come on for either front or rear side do I need to change the rotors for the other side as well if I want to change all the pads?
- From what I read in this forum, EBC and Ferodo are good brands to buy. If I buy EBC do I need to get rotors that are EBC brand as well or they work with standard rotors?
- How about Textar? I assume Textar and Ferodo are OEM parts, which one is the better quality? (it seems like the price for all of these brands are close on Atlantic British or partsgeeks).
I am a new guy to the RRS world and not very handy with auto mechanics. I appreciate the help.

Thanks.

 

[1953]

My dashboard break light came on and I also got the "check break pads" message on my 2006 RRS HSE. Obviously I need to change my pads, but I have a few questions as I don't want to deal with the dealership expenses and want to order the parts myself and replace them in an independent shop:
- When the light just comes on does it mean that I need to change the rotors as well? I have heard stories that with RR every time I change the pad I need to change the rotor too.
- How do I know whether it is front pads or rear pads that need to be changed? If the light has just come on for either front or rear side do I need to change the rotors for the other side as well if I want to change all the pads?
- From what I read in this forum, EBC and Ferodo are good brands to buy. If I buy EBC do I need to get rotors that are EBC brand as well or they work with standard rotors?
- How about Textar? I assume Textar and Ferodo are OEM parts, which one is the better quality? (it seems like the price for all of these brands are close on Atlantic British or partsgeeks).
I am a new guy to the RRS world and not very handy with auto mechanics. I appreciate the help.

Thanks.

Rohams,

My light came on sunday evening, I took it to the dealer Monday AM. I was down to 2/32 on the front brembo pads, I had ordered the EBC performance kit from British Atlantic, but the front rotors are on backorder. I had no choice but to have the dealer just do a set of Brembro pads, rotors and sensor change at the tune of $589.94. Once the sensor goes off you don't have much time before you get metal on metal, I think it was 600 miles for me and they were sqealing like a stabbed pig constantly. I saw the difference in the 2 rotors there was a HUGE difference in thickness, so it was a no brainer to replace the rotors as well. For me and doing 90% highway driving and well lets just say spirted driving as well, pads & rotors were a peace of mind that I'd be able to stop the beast, with out a question.. :thumb:

I called britsh Atlantic while waiting for my truck to get fixed, and they told me to stay away from the green stuff on the RRSSC because they are getting pads returned, that were falling apart, and didn't know why yet. So I'm kinda glad I took it to the dealer on Monday and just had them do the job.

Just my 2 cents for today 8)

 

[TripleE]

- When the light just comes on does it mean that I need to change the rotors as well? I have heard stories that with RR every time I change the pad I need to change the rotor too.

Since you have an HSE, a few of us here have found that the average thickness/life your rotors have left is about 1/2 if you''ve gone through 1 set of pads. My dealership notified me that LR is telling them to just "use the rotor until it's done - no need to resurface them either". I did just that (pads only) and have been fine for ~4k miles now. Your indy shop should be able to tell you the thickness and if you need to replace.

- How do I know whether it is front pads or rear pads that need to be changed? If the light has just come on for either front or rear side do I need to change the rotors for the other side as well if I want to change all the pads?

Not sure if you can tell without looking at the sensor, but as we've found here, they wear pretty evenly so if you're doing the front or rear, just do both.

- From what I read in this forum, EBC and Ferodo are good brands to buy. If I buy EBC do I need to get rotors that are EBC brand as well or they work with standard rotors? - How about Textar? I assume Textar and Ferodo are OEM parts, which one is the better quality? (it seems like the price for all of these brands are close on Atlantic British or partsgeeks).

Yes, Ferodo is OEM I believe; but if you are going outside that you might be on your own as freak mentioned with the EBC pads.


Oh and welcome.

 

[gooseyloosey]

Yes what 3E said.

Honestly unless you are really jonesing to make a switch and try something different and willing to deal with some other issues (I believe w Porterfields--probably the best non-OEM--you can't use the sensors) you can't go wrong with the OEM Ferodo pads and OEM "Made in Poland" discs. The stock brakes are very, very good on this car.

 

[Rich998a]

Don't mess about with pads. The Genuine Part pads aren't excessive and are manufactured to meet the latest latest LR specifications. They may be Ferodo, but that doesn't mean you'll get the same pad if you walk into a shop and ask for RRS Ferodo brake pads.

The book time for front pads and sensor change is 1.1hrs, and 0.9hrs for the rear.

 

[rohams]

Thanks a lot guys. That was really helpful. British Atlantic doesn't have Feredo for both front and rear (they just had it for rear). I think I am going with Textar as I believe they are OEM parts too. I hope no one had bad experience with Textar!

 

[Drevs]

You can get pads for $59 front, and $59 rear from AB. I think the front pads were "all brakes" and the rears "fedoro". I did not swap out my rotors, but have had good results so far. I posted about the pad swap on another thread...

 

[Rich998a]

You can get pads for $59 front, and $59 rear from AB. I think the front pads were "all brakes" and the rears "fedoro". I did not swap out my rotors, but have had good results so far. I posted about the pad swap on another thread...

AllMakes perhaps?

I put a set on an TDV6 the other day, with new LR part numbers. The pads were marked both TRW and Ferodo, so I guess Ferodo are part of the TRW empire.

 

[Drevs]

AllMakes perhaps?

Yes, that's the one. Thanks.