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Hello Comrades,

It’s been a couple months since my last post about why I still don’t have my 2010 RRS HSE. No, I still haven’t taken delivery, however I thought you may (or may not) find this “update” interesting.

In short the dealer talked me into ordering for a January 2010 production for an early March delivery. They said LR Inc. shuts down production in Nov/Dec and I would be better off placing my order for the (new) January production since I wanted a specific configuration. So as of 15 December my order has been placed and production will commence the week of 4 January 2010 with the following specs;

• Santorini Black
• Ebony Interior
• Ivory Contrast Stitch
• LUX
• SIRIUS
• Supercharged Grille (can be requested at time of order)
• Supercharged 20” 5-spoke Diamond Turned Alloy wheels (Style-7)


What I found most interesting was according to my dealer (Monterey Jaguar - Land Rover – Rolls Royce – Volvo) Volvo??? Anyhoo, according to them there are “significant” software upgrades to the TFT display, Navigation and sound system that were not available for models with a production date prior to October 2009.

They couldn’t specify what exactly these “upgrades” are but I’ve not read anything on here (or elsewhere) of anything that was problematic or in need of change. Any of you experts have an idea? The only thing they did mention was something to do with Navigation icons or arrows appearing in the TFT but that was not certain.

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Yep, I think they are referring to the infotainment system's interface update that Land Rover first promised would be implemented starting with September 2009 production... Guess they are running late. :lol: The navigation system should output directional turn-by-turn arrows and street names on the TFT display between the gages in instrument cluster (along with the touchscreen, of course), plus you should also get radio, CD, and MP3 playback info (such as artist name, song, etc.) - and possibly Bluetooth information, not sure - displayed there. Current MY2010s don't have this redundant information displayed in the cluster, and have to rely on the touchscreen only. Hopefully it is something that can be retroactively uploaded with a software patch into existing cars, otherwise some early 2010 owners will not be very happy.
 

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CA-SPORT said:
2010 with the following specs;

• Santorini Black
• Ebony Interior
• Ivory Contrast Stitch
• LUX
• SIRIUS
• Supercharged Grille (can be requested at time of order)
• Supercharged 20” 5-spoke Diamond Turned Alloy wheels (Style-7)
I like your configuration very much. Please post pics when available! :mrgreen:
 

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I held back my order for this very reason. Took delivery last week of an October built Supercharged. No navigation / phone / MP3 info on display. To say that I'm annoyed, is putting it mildly. The result? Use the phone of radio while navigating - no visual navigation prompts. They better ensure that the update will be available on all 2010's, else the current system is seriously flawed in design because of the aforementioned issue.
Some updates have filtered through though - the iPod lead supplied with my vehicle, charges my iPone 3Gs e.g. So far no issues with Transmission faults etc as reported by other owners either. Suspension knock is worse than on my previous Supercharged.
 

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What is the firmware version on your iPhone 3GS? I understand this phone has problems receiving calls through the Bluetooth system (sometimes an incoming call is routed through the telephone speaker, rather than the car speakers when you answer it), a problem that started with the latest firmware update (3.0.1?) issued by Apple. The phone is no longer recommended on Land Rover's web site in its latest firmware version and I read that a number of other car manufacturers are having similar Bluetooth connection problems with the iPhone 3GS.
 

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The iPhone has the latest firmware version (3.1.2). The phone works fine as a music player and as reported above, is charged by the iPod cable supplied with the vehicle. Don’t get me started on the iPhone as a phone though. In general, it must be the worst mobile phone I’ve ever owned. Calls are dropped; Calls can’t last more than 3 minutes if 3G is enabled; reception quality is poor; don’t believe for one minute the phone supports MMS etc etc. Attach it to any Bluetooth device, and it gets even worse. Be it a Garmin Zumo 660 GPS or the Range Rover’s BT phone integration. Yes, some calls (never the first call after connecting to the RRS) come through on the mobile’s internal speaker. I’ve even had the iPhone reboot itself during a call while connected to the vehicle. To answer your question – the iPhone is flaky to say the least, even more so when connected to the RRS. I’ve tried my Nokia E51 (which I normally use when going on bike trips) and have had no issues using it in the RRS.
Very annoying that caller info is not displayed on the instrument cluster.
 

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I'm hoping that if upgrades are there, they will be available to current 2010 drivers - don't really see why not unless they change hardware, too.

Funny - most of this stuff worked in my '02 S6 ... can't be that hard.

umbertob said:
Yep, I think they are referring to the infotainment system's interface update that Land Rover first promised would be implemented starting with September 2009 production... Guess they are running late. :lol: The navigation system should output directional turn-by-turn arrows and street names on the TFT display between the gages in instrument cluster (along with the touchscreen, of course), plus you should also get radio, CD, and MP3 playback info (such as artist name, song, etc.) - and possibly Bluetooth information, not sure - displayed there. Current MY2010s don't have this redundant information displayed in the cluster, and have to rely on the touchscreen only. Hopefully it is something that can be retroactively uploaded with a software patch into existing cars, otherwise some early 2010 owners will not be very happy.
 

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An authorized Land Rover dealer just posted on a UK forum that the turn-by-turn feature on the TFT display will not be introduced until MY2012, which will go into production some time in 2011.

:shock:

That's some delay! They must have hit some major technical roadblock or something, as originally they were talking about Sep/Oct 2009 production for this feature to be added. I hope CA SPORT will prove them wrong, but apparently this bit of bad news comes straight from the Product Manager in Solihull...

Oh well, at least you early MY2010 owners won't get all jealous later this year.
 

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Suspension knock is worse than on my previous Supercharged.
You talking about the front end thud/clunk on the DSC equipped ones? Did yours turn out to be sway bar bushings or ball joints or what?
 

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I have experienced two minor problems with my MY2010 RR. First, the analog clock was 1 hour out of sync with the digital time display and second, there was a gas cap amber warning. Regarding upgrading the electronics. It seems to me that since there is a USB port on all of these vehicles, owners could download the upgrade onto a thumb drive and self install the updates. Most owners, I imagine, have experience with Itunes, etc, and should have no problem. Just plug in the drive and hit an upgrade button on the display - for that matter one could also upgrade the NAV database. However, being realistic, this is taking $$$$ away from the dealerships for NAv updates. The other improvements would be free anyway and would probably be welcomed by the dealers.
 

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Welcome rjlsat. There is a known problem with the analog clock being out of sync with the digital one on some early production 2010s:

Models
LS - Range Rover Sport
LA - Discovery 4
Title 10my Analogue clock will not set to correct time
Last Modified 28-OCT-2009 15:34
Category Electrical
Symptom 203000 Basic Electrical
Content
Issue
Analogue clock will not set to correct time. Correct time and date showing on instrument cluster. Analogue clock is moving as normal and is lighting up but cannot be set to the correct time.

Cause
There are two possible issues.There is an internal lock up issue with the clock or the clock connector not latched.

Action
Carry out a battery reset and recheck the clock operation to confirm this has resolved the issue.
If a battery reset fails to correct the issue access the connector to the clock and ensure it is latched correctly.
Regarding the USB port, that would be nice... But it will never happen. Dealers have enough problems getting software updates to stick using the approved diagnostics software, can you imagine if owners started doing their own with a USB stick? 8-0=
 

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CA-Sport

Buy the time you add the Lux package, Style 7 rims etc, why did you not just get the SC for a little extra $$?


949BFN

I am a Rogers dealer (GSM cell phones). Although personally a Blackberry guy, the feedback on the i-phone has been extremely positive (we sell lots of them). However, just the RR (as seen on this site) once in a while you get a lemon. I cannot speak as far as connectivity problems with your car, but you should not be dropping calls and having the other issues. The phone should have a one year warranty. Usually you call the provider and they will send a replacement with a preprinted waybill to ship your original phone back with at no charge.
 

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JetPilot said:
CA-Sport

Buy the time you add the Lux package, Style 7 rims etc, why did you not just get the SC for a little extra $$?
Very good question. Two reasons;

#1.
Even optioned as above the MSRP is just at $65K so a jump to the base SC price of $73K is still a fairly large leap (for me). Also, the grill, and the SC wheels were comped by the dealer as I'm a repeat customer severl times over.

#2.
At the risk of insulting a few :oops: , I'm still a bit nervous with the SC. While I have full confidence in the truck it appears there are (slightly) more issues with the SC verses the HSE, albeit very few in general. Plus I've never been about speed - I'm more likely to spend an extra $5k on options verses more horsepower. :)
 

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Got it. When I priced it out (in Canadian $$), with the RIM and other SC look options, the difference was less then $5K so I figured why not just get the SC. As well, I will never off road this car so I figured less odds of messing up the sophisticated suspension.

I guess by the summer we’ll both have had a chance to see how these things are holding up and can compare notes. By the way … that’s a good looking garage. All it’s missing is a couple of Bud Girls handing out free beer you will have achieved perfection :thumb:
 

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...All it’s missing is a couple of Bud Girls handing out free beer you will have achieved perfection :thumb:
LOL! Agreed, except I'd prefer David Beckham in a speedo over the bud girls - I bat for the home team! :shhh:
 

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Well...that was a thread killer. 8~

:lol:
 

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Well...that was a thread killer. 8~

:lol:

:lol: I know - sorry. I couldn't resist! Timing is everything! ;-)
 

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lol - CA SPORT, I too prefer black Range Rovers and men :dance:
 

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I should have known. Anybody who has a two car garage and can actually fit two cars in it should have been my first clue :thumb:
 

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I should have known. Anybody who has a two car garage and can actually fit two cars in it should have been my first clue :thumb:
ROTFLMAO - seriously, I love it! Thanks for making me laugh. All you guys crack me up! :lol:

It goes back to my childhood - I HATED my parent's "suburban storage unit" containing everything BUT the family car! :doh:
I swore to myself "never" when I was old enough to have my own place!
 
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