[guy]

As my post title says,but i have a problem that has me baffled.

The truck has had a leaking rear air spring for a couple of weeks,but of course i had to wait till i get an EAS hard fault before i decide to replace it.

i fitted the spring yesterday and went to my indie to get the fault cleared,which they were unable to do( i asked and received some answers from the diagnostics forum about that issue)

my problem is this,i manually pump up the springs,and the front pair go down again after i switch of the ignition.'

i removed the delay timer,but the front still slowly goes down.

i have checked for leaks and have not found any.

my question is this,

why would both front bags go down?

i can understand if it was a sticking valve in the valve block,but wouldnt only one corner then go down?

any thoughts on this would be welcome,as tomorrow morning i am taking the valve block out to check it.

 

[RRToadHall]

Unless the front bags have been replaced I would still vote for a leak. Once one bag starts to leak it is only a matter of time before another one will go. Like tyres I wouldl replace all four at once or at the extreme minimum replace them per axle.

 

[kmagnuss]

Soap test.

Most likely to be bag, bags, or valve block.

 

[RRToadHall]

I forgot to asdk, did you check your bags in all height settings?

 

[waveydavey]

Where in Cape Town?
Unfortunately the licence on BBS means I can't put my faultmate on but if you want to try it with Story's software I have a working lead and the software you can try.

I am in Wynberg and home next week.

 

[guy]

The front bags are new,so i am fairly certain they are not leaking.

I have the delay timer relay still disconnected,and this morning the truck is standing proudly upright at the rear and on the bump stops at the front.

so this morning i am going to bypass the valve block, run airlines to the front bags,and pump air directly into them.if the truck goes down,i will then know its a leak in the bags,if it stays up,then its the valve block.

Wavey Davey,
i live in fishhoek,but have an engineering biz in the Retreat area.perhaps when you get back we can touch base?

 

[ghur]

Waveydavey and Guy. I am in Noordhoek. Its a small world. I have a Rovacom with all the bells and whistles. Away at the moment but home next week so maybe we need to have a beer drink to compare notes. :dance:

 

[ghur]

I have also got a complete Rangie that I use as a troubleshooting donor vehicle. If need be I can let you have bits a pieces that you can swap with your stuff till you find the snag. I have recently overhauled the valve block so you are more than welcome to try it out. As long as I get it back. ray:

 

[guy]

Yep it really is a small world....
ghur,is yours the racing green 4.6 i saw bouncing badly on the bump stops over the ou kaapse weg about a year ago?

i would be interested in hooking up your Rovercom, southfield LR had a problem getting their one to talk to my ecu,but i have a suspicion the guy they used didnt know what he was doing,as he first tried to load the wrong year and model.

ok,i have bypassed the valve block,and pumped up direct to the front air bags,the driver side air bag is still going down,it was never a problem untill i fitted the new drivers side rear bag on monday,so maybe with the jacking up of the rear i have broken the seal on the front bag(new about 6 months ago).
am just checking all the air connections at the mo.but at least i have eliminated a leaking valve block.

 

[ghur]

I am sure it was not me. I carry my Rovacom in the car always just in case.
I bought another Range Rover a month or so back that had been moved around by some clowns using a fork lift. It was leaking madly from all the air bags and I found that with no pressure in the system (it had been sitting for a year) the bottom inserts in all the bags had popped out when the axles extended. I connected a compressor to the system and by inflating/deflating to the high setting a few times they all popped back into place and it was as good as new. One did leak from the pipe that enters the bag which was an easy fix by replacing the o rings.
Maybe your leaking bag has a similar problem.

 

[kmagnuss]

soapy....water....

 

[waveydavey]

Guy if ghur has the same licence as me then the Rovercom won't work. You are welcome to have a look though. Story's software will be fine and that is brilliant on EAS.

Maybe meet up for a drink? I don't know pubs in Fishhoek but I know the Nags Head in Noordhoek and near us we have Cafe Verdi and my favorite WBHS - where else do you get a bar IN a school?
Southern Suburbs Range Rovers.net meeting???

 

[ghur]

Mine is a multiple vehicle Rovacom Lite which is very handy since I have got more than one Rangie. The Nags Head was taken over by Bob Skinstad of Springbok fame and is now known as the Toad. Still serves good food and of course good liquor. I think the Victoria Times is Fish Hoeks main pub and is especially fun if you like a good fight. :lol:
I have been known to have a diagnostic/beer drink night in my very own garage but my wife frowns upon it. Women just dont understand the need for male bonding sessions.

But I definitely think a SSRR.net meeting is in order.

 

[guy]

I agree, when you gentlemen get back from leave,lets have the first meeting of the ssrr.net club!
the nags head is fine by me,or we can split the travelling distance and meet at peddlars?

 

[John W]

Guy if ghur has the same licence as me then the Rovercom won't work. You are welcome to have a look though. Story's software will be fine and that is brilliant on EAS.

Maybe meet up for a drink? I don't know pubs in Fishhoek but I know the Nags Head in Noordhoek and near us we have Cafe Verdi and my favorite WBHS - where else do you get a bar IN a school?
Southern Suburbs Range Rovers.net meeting???

When I was WBHS ,there was definitely not a pub there and the school was run by a tyrant named Blackbeard :twisted: .Dont break tradition in CT ,meet at Forries in Newlands,I was practically weaned there.
Geoff no driving the GT40 that night though :naughty: .Only wish I could be there,miss that old haunt

 

[guy]

GT 40 ???? Hell yes,please drive it Geof!!!!

Again a small world,i see you are in Alton John, i had the unfortunate upbringing of being born and raised in Gosport.

 

[John W]

Yep,Alton now for my sins.At least the RR copes easily with the 10 inches of snow we have just had.Have a friend down in Gosport,been down that way a couple of times.

 

[guy]

its a dump,i fly over once a year to visit family there,otherwise the place would never get a visit from me again.
Enjoy the snow.

 

[guy]

ok back to the story line,

i have connected the passenger front air bag directly to my manual pump system,completely bypassing the valve block on that corner.

The truck has stayed up overnight, and all day,so it looks like saturday morning is going to be spent stripping the valve block.

saturday afternoon will be spent trying to find out why my disco is overheating!!

 

[ghur]

Hey John. My wife hides the GT40 keys when booze is involved in case I am tempted to get clever (or stupid). But invariably it gets fired up after numerous diagnostic drinks in my garage just to hear it. I am sure the neighbours dont mind. How can any body not like the sound of 400 V8 horses going crazy!!
Forries in Newlands? Never heard of it but its now on my list of must visit bars.

Guy. If you need a source for o rings let me know. There is a place in Maitland that I get mine from.