[MMK110464]

Hi everybody,

This is my first post in the forum. I have been lurking for some months gathering intel on the RRS and trying to decide between the HSE and the SC.

I started looking for a new car several months ago, and it took me just a week to decide that the RRS was by far the best looking car/truck among all my choices (except for a Porsche 911 which I had to rule out because of practical concerns). As far as I am concerned the beauty of this truck is unmatched among SUVs.

After reading many posts here and in other forums, it was clear to me that although the HSE is a great truck, the SC offered a very special and rare experience: an SUV with a Bentley-like interior, that handles like a sport car and 510 HP to prove it. I don't think I will ever push the SC to its limits regarding speed, but acceleration like the one described by SC owners is something I dream about.

I live in Miami, FL and started shopping around for my RRS SC about 2 weeks ago. I don't want to go outside the state so I only contacted 4 dealers. One of them never replied to my request. Another one reply to my first request but when I ask about prices I never heard from him again. Of the last 2 still standing, one told me msrp was his best offer and the other one made and offer for a $750 discount. To be honest with you, I felt like I was shopping for a $15k car and not an $80k truck.

I wouldn't mind the whole thing if it wasn't because I am also shopping for a Q7 Prestige S-Line for my wife and I have received very good discounts from all Audi dealers, including The Collection which is notorious for not negotiating prices. And all this for a Q7 model like the one I want that is really hard to find with this options.

Since I am new to the Land Rover scene, maybe this is the way it is with the RRS and no discounts are offered even during the worst recession in 20 years.

I would love to hear your comments/suggestions,

MMK

 

[umbertob]

The 2010s are too new to expect much of a discount. S/C models especially are likely to be in high demand, especially since Land Rover probably keeps supplies relatively low (they did the same in late 2005, when the Sport first came out. For a few months it was near impossible to test drive a S/C, let alone buy one! They were selling well above sticker for quite a while, although it's true it was a different economy back then...) In a few months dealers may sing a different tune, but for now I think getting peanuts off sticker of a brand new 2010 S/C in a state like Florida is all you can hope for.

 

[MMK110464]

Hi Umberto:

Thanks for your reply.

I understand your logic and I would also share it if not for the several threads I have red where people claim discounts between $3k-$5k off msrp. How do you explain this discounts?

 

[umbertob]

discounts between $3k-$5k off msrp.

Off a new 2010 RRS Supercharged? Show me. Dealers in Arkansas don't count. :wink: That would be quite a deal - unheard of around here in California (for now...) On a 2010 HSE, maybe.

 

[sjg123]

hire a broker and expand your horizons - i live in the sf bay area and did just that - broker found me significantly better deal than any local dealer would give. and improved the value of my trade in too - i don't want to go into details about dollars, but this was my first time using a broker (referred by this site) and i'll never go to a dealer again...

 

[kstatenupe]

especially if you buy towards the end of the month. Deals are out there to be had. Christmas is coming. I loved my experience with Fleet Rates. Im sure you could find something.

Heck if a salesman has 2 RRS' on order, but can shore up a third with a discount that he might have missed...That could mean more cash in his pocket.

OP...Dont just settle for your local dealers. Especially if there are only a few in the area. Expand your search and have your toy delivered and pay a few grand less than what your local dealer is offering.

Last thing. With fleet rates. I went with their price for my RRS. But with my wifes QX56, I shopped fleet rates, and then asked the dealer to beat their price by $500. Done deal. Got my 2010 QX56 for $2300 below invoice (not mrsp). The reason??? Bought at the end of the month, and he got a little bump in his bonus.

Thats just me though.

 

[avus]

my local dealer finally caved in and agreed to honor the cash rebate AND the finance bonus cash -- for a $5000 discount 'savings' that didn't really cost him anything...
its funny how things change when the dealer has 2 canceled orders from customers backing out

 

[MMK110464]

Umberto:
just read the post by avus, he got a $5k discount on a RRS SC

sjg123:
thanks for the tip about the broker. Care to share?

kstatenupe:
went to fleetrates.com and requested a quote. I will keep you posted. By the way, you mentioned trying to negotiate during the end of the month and that is what I did all last week. Nothing.

avus:
would you care to describe the cash rebate and the finance bonus? First time I hear about them. I just red about the $3.500 incentives for people currently leasing a car with the lease ending before June 2010 but unfortunately I don't lease.

 

[avus]

latest incentives, as posted by edmunds (in my area)

http://www.edmunds.com/new/2010/lan...incentives.html?vdp=off&setzip=60005&state=IL

 

[MMK110464]

I contacted a broker to serach for my RRS SC 2010. He wants $500 upfront for his services. Have you guys paid the broker upfront?

 

[sizquik]

I contacted a broker to serach for my RRS SC 2010. He wants $500 upfront for his services. Have you guys paid the broker upfront?

> Fleetrates is a scam apparently
> Don't pay the broker up front. Here is one that was recommended to me: auto broker: Drew Polenchar 949-295-2955

> join Costco and try their auto program, see what prices are available for the car though my local dealer would not disclose prices to me for some reason
> Amex has a buying program as well
> Contact all of the fleet / internet sales people at the dealers and let them know the price you want to pay.. make them an offer and maybe one of them will bite.
> the car is worth what you are willing to pay for it. Wait 6 months and you will have more wiggle room on the SC

 

[MMK110464]

sizquik;

Good post. Thanks for taking the time to write. I will surely follow some of your advices.

 

[sizquik]

sizquik;

Good post. Thanks for taking the time to write. I will surely follow some of your advices.

No Problem at all. As far as pricing goes, start at invoice and work your way up. Check out truecar.com as well. Good luck.

 

[sjg123]

a good, legitimate broker will indeed charge you a fee upfront - to separate the lookers from the buyers. they will also fully refund it should they not come through for you. talk to the ones who sponsor/support this site...

 

[sizquik]

a good, legitimate broker will indeed charge you a fee upfront - to separate the lookers from the buyers. they will also fully refund it should they not come through for you. talk to the ones who sponsor/support this site...

Thanks for the head's up.. I didn't even see there was a broker section on this site. Very helpful.

 

[kstatenupe]

I never paid fleet rates anything. All my money was sent directly to the dealership. I did have to pay the $39 to be a member or whatever.

I really cant say its a scam cuz i got everything I was promised and the price that was quoted to me. I was in constant contact with the broker and dealership manager.

 

[avus]

you might want to also try zag.com
a couple of friends of mine have indeed received/purchased vehicles below invoice
its a free service, and can't hurt to try

its a service provided through overstock.com

http://cars.overstock.com/main.html?referrer_id=ZOSC0000001

 

[eugenek]

a good, legitimate broker will indeed charge you a fee upfront - to separate the lookers from the buyers. they will also fully refund it should they not come through for you. talk to the ones who sponsor/support this site...

Unless this fee is a security deposit that gets refunded either way (whether a broker is able to provide a vehicle or not), its a ripoff. I have used quite a few leasing brokers over the years and never paid a dime for their services. These folks make their money by getting vehicles from dealers at a lower price point than what the dealer would typically sell the vehicle for (sort of like "wholesale" price) and they make anywhere from several hundred to several thousand dollars per vehicle, depending on several variables (the price of the vehicle, how greedy the dealer is, how desperate the customer is, etc.)

A buyer paying a leasing broker would be similar to an eBay bidder paying comission to eBay for something purchased at an eBay auction. In a real world, its the seller that pays the comission.