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Just received a Quote from the closest Land Rover Indie for $3400 for the head gasket job + extra $200-500 for incidentals,like plugs,wires,excetra.

Last time I had this done it was $1800 and included wires,plugs and an oem water pump.

Just would like to confirm this is the going rate these days.
 

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More like $2500


either way don't bother with any shop claiming to specialize in rovers and especially don't let them order parts for you.
 

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My Indy guy here in Colorado quoted me $1,900.00 4 days work and that include resurfacing the heads.
 

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I am in Western Nebraska so I was planning on getting any work I can not do, done around the Denver area.
 

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Is this for real???? Under $100 for gaskets, another $200 if you go for a stud kit and no idea about machining costs in the US but I pay £35, around $50, a head for the reface. That makes $400 max in parts and a job that can be done over a weekend. Ask what it would cost for the same job on a small block Chevy and if the price is any different, you are being ripped off.
 

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Is this for real???? Under $100 for gaskets, another $200 if you go for a stud kit and no idea about machining costs in the US but I pay £35, around $50, a head for the reface. That makes $400 max in parts and a job that can be done over a weekend. Ask what it would cost for the same job on a small block Chevy and if the price is any different, you are being ripped off.
Bingo.

the first step is to get a mechanic that works on other cars, you don't need a specialist to change head gaskets
 

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You need a break down of the price. How many hours labour they are charging for? and how much is their hourly rate? My local indy here in the UK charges £65 per hour + 20% tax on top. A main dealer now must be around £150 per hour.
 

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for $2500 it's almost worth somebody on here that has done it themselves jumping on a plane with suitcase full of tools !!!
 

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Just FYI, I just had this done in Tokyo for about 800US$, with me providing the gasket kit, new spark plugs, wires, 2 new coil packs and some bits and bobs.. total costs around 1100US$... Took the garage (NOT a dealer) about a week to get it done... Good luck!
 

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Wow, that's the highest I've seen. I typically do them for around $1200 including parts, surfacing is extra but usually costs me about $100 for the pair, and that's actual surfacing on a head mill not just running it across a surface grinder.

I don't buy a full head set, there are lots of extra gaskets and seals in there that aren't usually needed and I prefer to use only Elring head gaskets, and head sets don't typically contain them. I've even paid extra to have the Elring gaskets substituted in the set and still found the regular no-name gaskets in the set when I received it, so that's another reason I buy them piecemeal. Plus, I usually have some of the gaskets on hand.

Stretch bolts can be had for about 45 bucks for the set, depending on where you look. I've seen them cheaper from time to time. Also done a few where we upgraded to ARP studs, which I prefer, but they go for around $200 for the set (for the correct ones for 10-bolt heads.)
 

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Ask how long the job will take, about 8 to 10 hours, then ask for the hourly rate, then ask for the costs of the parts, then add everything up, then ask why he comes to the end price, then watch his face when you question the quote
 

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I have received a quote from another Land Rover specialist shop about 60 mile further away than the above mentioned shop and they quoted $1900.00. That puts them 300 miles from my house. I would have to guess that the first quote is to cover the 24 month warranty they offer, charge twice just in case. I have only been in western Nebraska for a year now and finding any decent mechanic is troublesome. I have a 93 suburban and the local guys where quoting me $650.00 -900.00 just to change the heater core in it. I am not kidding one shop quoted 900.00 with a straight face.
I am hesitant to have the Range Rover tore into it is running so well, I do know it needs those head gaskets changed though it has a drip off the rear of the passenger side head. I saw that when I did the purchase. I am contemplating on just tooling up myself and doing the work, we do have a local machine shop and the guy that runs it is a good fair man.
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If it is running fine and all you have is a coolant leak, then it is likely that the head gaskets don't need changing. At worst it needs the valley gasket doing which even if you haven't done it before is pretty straightforward and simple. The other source of a drip at the back of the block where your picture shows is the hose at the front of the inlet manifold, it runs down the valley gasket and drips off the back.
 

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If it is running fine and all you have is a coolant leak, then it is likely that the head gaskets don't need changing. At worst it needs the valley gasket doing which even if you haven't done it before is pretty straightforward and simple. The other source of a drip at the back of the block where your picture shows is the hose at the front of the inlet manifold, it runs down the valley gasket and drips off the back.
Don't take any risk with a leaking valley gasket leaking coolant from the manifold!
I had a Merc with a V8 what was leaking there, it waterlocked.. Con-rod bend...
 

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Looks like I have some more investigating to do, Thanks for the tip Richard.
 

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Ok, confirmed Head Gasket leak. I noticed that the Gasket is composite looks to have been changed once.

Video, Look for the drip, this is a 3 day cold start with 2 minutes of run time.

 

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Chris, suggest you'll do it for $2500. That'll buy you a return flight with a suitcase full of tools and a gasket set and you'll still be making more than you normally charge to do a pair of head gaskets over here.......
 
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