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Wow - just found out my timing chain needs to be replaced in my 2011 with 44k miles. Dealer said they're starting to see this with the 2011's... anyone hear of this? 3 times in the last 6 weeks I had Performance Restricted come up for a minute and then change to CEL for an hour or so. The only code scanned was P0018 CRANKSHAFT CAMSHAFT POSITION CORRELATION BANK 2 SENSOR A . They're replacing the timing chain under warranty - was just curious if anyone else heard of this as I didn't think 44k was many miles at all for a timing chain to go.
 

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Yikes.
I am sorry I don't have any answers for you, but I am glad that you're still under warranty on this one. I wonder what the out of warranty cost would be for this repair.

Just curious, if you're the first owner, how hard do you drive your rig? Use it for towing or other strenuous work? I'd like someone who has more knowledge of the codes to decipher "P0018 CRANKSHAFT CAMSHAFT POSITION CORRELATION BANK 2 SENSOR A"

I agree that it seems way too early for a timing chain to go bad. I've got 33k on my '10 and about 1 year of warranty left. If something like this is going to happen, I'd really like it to happen before the warranty has expired. It is interesting that the dealer said they have been seeing this on the '11 because AFAIK the AJ133 (5.0L Jag AJ-V8) is the same from '09-present. Unless there is something unique about the '11MY, maybe the dealer was just trying to make you feel better... Regardless, glad you're getting it repaired under warranty. Hope you're sailing smooth for awhile after this is finished.
 

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I'm actually the second owner - bought it a few months back CPO (Luckily!).

Thanks for the good wishes and I hope yours doesn't see the same issue!


Yikes.
I am sorry I don't have any answers for you, but I am glad that you're still under warranty on this one. I wonder what the out of warranty cost would be for this repair.

Just curious, if you're the first owner, how hard do you drive your rig? Use it for towing or other strenuous work? I'd like someone who has more knowledge of the codes to decipher "P0018 CRANKSHAFT CAMSHAFT POSITION CORRELATION BANK 2 SENSOR A"

I agree that it seems way too early for a timing chain to go bad. I've got 33k on my '10 and about 1 year of warranty left. If something like this is going to happen, I'd really like it to happen before the warranty has expired. It is interesting that the dealer said they have been seeing this on the '11 because AFAIK the AJ133 (5.0L Jag AJ-V8) is the same from '09-present. Unless there is something unique about the '11MY, maybe the dealer was just trying to make you feel better... Regardless, glad you're getting it repaired under warranty. Hope you're sailing smooth for awhile after this is finished.
 

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Yes, I had my timing chain and all associated parts replaced on our 2011 Range Rover last summer. I was told that it was not an issue of it falling off, but more of an issue of being sloppy. My Range Rover had about 30,000 miles on it. All under warranty so I did not care much, but still, it is odd for such a "young" vehicle to need something so major. I'm just hoping that my 2013 Sport wont need the same.
 

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Yes, I had my timing chain and all associated parts replaced on our 2011 Range Rover last summer. I was told that it was not an issue of it falling off, but more of an issue of being sloppy. My Range Rover had about 30,000 miles on it. All under warranty so I did not care much, but still, it is odd for such a "young" vehicle to need something so major. I'm just hoping that my 2013 Sport wont need the same.
Well that makes me feel a bit better that another was in the same situation.

BTW- checked out your pics and our '11s are identical! Love the Stornaway.

Thanks again,
 

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I actually traded my 11 Range Rover in a few months ago. I guess a dealership in the NorthEast bought it. We do miss it, but are glad to not be at the dealership every few weeks.
 

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Interesting... I had not heard of this issue. Something to keep in mind for the future if I eventually look to upgrade again.
 

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That is Scarry stuff. I just bought an '05 HSE and am brand new to RR ownership. I thought I was getting a pretty good deal, until I got it home the first time and discovered the massive oil leak... that the seller had obviously steam cleaned just before I viewed the vehicle. Leak was coming from the timing case and valve covers. So the non warranty cost at a non-dealer to get to the timing case was $3.5k US. They said the timing chain looked fine, but recommended changing it anyway since they were already there for an additional $1.5k. I opted not to spend that much on something that looked fine but now you have me second guessing that decision.

With a lot of additional little stuff that needed attention I got out of the shop for $4.5k. Now it seems like not such a good price. I guess that is my welcome to RR ownership. Looks like it is time to invest in: All Coms, a repair manual, a lift, and a killer set of tools...

Great Forum, thanks for the Nav Screen Hack! works like a charm.

Oh yea, seller also neglected to mention that the CD player and BT phone also did not work and stupid me didn't test them. Sigh. But there does appear to be a lifetime subscription on the XM that he didn't even know about. So I got that going for me.
 

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That is Scarry stuff. I just bought an '05 HSE and am brand new to RR ownership. I thought I was getting a pretty good deal, until I got it home the first time and discovered the massive oil leak... that the seller had obviously steam cleaned just before I viewed the vehicle. Leak was coming from the timing case and valve covers. So the non warranty cost at a non-dealer to get to the timing case was $3.5k US. They said the timing chain looked fine, but recommended changing it anyway since they were already there for an additional $1.5k. I opted not to spend that much on something that looked fine but now you have me second guessing that decision.

With a lot of additional little stuff that needed attention I got out of the shop for $4.5k. Now it seems like not such a good price. I guess that is my welcome to RR ownership. Looks like it is time to invest in: All Coms, a repair manual, a lift, and a killer set of tools...

Great Forum, thanks for the Nav Screen Hack! works like a charm.

Oh yea, seller also neglected to mention that the CD player and BT phone also did not work and stupid me didn't test them. Sigh. But there does appear to be a lifetime subscription on the XM that he didn't even know about. So I got that going for me.
The timing chain concern brought up in this thread was regarding the 2010-2012 5.0 V8 engines. Your particular engine would have different areas of prone issues. Truly, the 5.0 engine is a fantastic one, this was the only mechanical related issue we had with our 2011 RR. All other issues were related to electrical or accessory type functions/items.
 

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Hi i am seeing a lot of problem with timing chains , on newer 2010 and newer, plus we are seeing them on Mercedes Benz,BMW,Ford , and we are suspecting that with extended oil changes it is contributing to early failure of timing chains, another taught is that the oil do not have the proper additives to protect the timing chain and guides from wearing out, i have sent a couple of oil samples to get tested , so hopefully we will have some answers
 

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My wife (whom of course I love to death) insisted on getting a RR SC. I of course agreed because of the 510 HP intrigued the hell out of me; well needless to say that the performance is impressive however I too am beyond annoyed because of the excessive engine noise.


We replace the water pump because this is where the sound seemed like it was coming from but it made little difference to the type of sound and the volume of it . The sound clearly seems to be coming for the Timing chains however we have no performance related issues included no check engine lights etc. I am looking for some other with the same issues and wanted to know if they have replaced the timing set to cure the issue. I am sure one day it will need to be replaced because of the camshaft code or some other performance related issue.
 

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2011 RR SC

My wife (whom of course I love to death) insisted on getting a RR SC. I of course agreed because of the 510 HP intrigued the hell out of me; well needless to say that the performance is impressive however I too am beyond annoyed because of the excessive engine noise.


We replace the water pump because this is where the sound seemed like it was coming from but it made little difference to the type of sound and the volume of it . The sound clearly seems to be coming for the Timing chains however we have no performance related issues included no check engine lights etc. I am looking for some other with the same issues and wanted to know if they have replaced the timing set to cure the issue. I am sure one day it will need to be replaced because of the camshaft code or some other performance related issue.
What kind of noise are you getting? I have a clicking/ticking noise if I were to describe it, comparable to a diesel engine during idle and it gets pretty noticeable. 2011 s/c with 30k miles.

very noticeable around the :30 second mark
 

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What kind of noise are you getting? I have a clicking/ticking noise if I were to describe it, comparable to a diesel engine during idle and it gets pretty noticeable. 2011 s/c with 30k miles.
I have the same exact noise in mine, even after the timing chain replacement LY.
Dealer says it's normal however, I don't feel comfortable with it and sometimes think it sounds like a POS.
 

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I have the same exact noise in mine, even after the timing chain replacement LY.
Dealer says it's normal however, I don't feel comfortable with it and sometimes think it sounds like a POS.
What made you replace your timing chain? I brought it up to the service advisor (showed him a short video clip) and he said it was normal. I really doubt it though...it can get pretty loud sometimes. I just hope it's not going to lead to something big in the future after warranty is up...
 

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What made you replace your timing chain? I brought it up to the service advisor (showed him a short video clip) and he said it was normal. I really doubt it though...it can get pretty loud sometimes. I just hope it's not going to lead to something big in the future after warranty is up...
The original post above is mine - I was getting Performance Restricted and P0018 codes. Dealer said the timing chain and guides were the cause and replaced it all.
 

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The original post above is mine - I was getting Performance Restricted and P0018 codes. Dealer said the timing chain and guides were the cause and replaced it all.
Ah I see. Did you have this noise before and after the chain replacement? I found another thread where someone got their chain replaced due to a similar noise.
 

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Ah I see. Did you have this noise before and after the chain replacement? I found another thread where someone got their chain replaced due to a similar noise.
Yep, same noise before and after - no change in sound or volume. Dealer swears it's completely normal. We fired up 2 other RR's on the lot (a 2010 and a 2011) and they both sounded the same as mine so I wasn't too worried. Just hate the sound of it when starting up in a parking lot with people around... Sounds like crap.
 

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Just bought my RRS a few months ago with just over 32K miles. I took it back to the dealer complaining that the engine sounded loud and it had a slight knock. Never owned one before - so wasn't sure but it seemed like it shouldn't have run as loudly. Service mngr told me they checked it out and nothing was wrong. Fast forward and just the other night I was driving it and the engine light came on. It now has slightly more than 35K miles. Took it back to the dealer and wouldn't you know! It's the Timing Chain! It has slack in it. I'll try to explain what he said.... the chain connects to these plastic things and they heat up and wear down. On the newer models the plastic things are metal and the replacements are now metal. Yay! BUT it's a $2800 fix. Glad I got the extended warranty.
 

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Whoops - forgot to mention - had bushings replaced right after I bought it.(32K miles) Hope these problems aren't indicative of my RRS experience. Haven't even had it six months yet.
 
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