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2011 Range Rover with new 4.4-litre V8 Diesel

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http://www.caradvice.com.au/69180/2011- ... v8-diesel/

Some interesting comments within
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if only the diesel would cross the pond
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I'm not sure, but I think this may be the diesel that was originally designed and destined for the F-150. If so, maybe there's hope that it might be sold in the US...
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The TDV8 in the Range Rover is a development of the TDV6 in the LR3/4 which in it self was co developed with Peugeot Citroen all that has happened is that both engines have been enlarged , the TDV8 was destined for the Jaguar XK but was found to be to tall to fit under the bonnet/hood .
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Not quite true, as the only main caracteristic that is shared between the TDV6 and the TDV8, is the Bore x stroke ratio.

Almost everything else, as far as engine block is concerned, is different. V6 is a 60º wereas the V8 is a 90º block. That alone invalidates most of similarities, except of course, turbos, chains, valves, etc...
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Something is wrong, RR always changes everything after two years. It doesn't seem cost efficient to get a mexican made engine due to shipping costs.

Plus they have to play around with the currency markets and that never wins in the long run.
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Not quite true, as the only main caracteristic that is shared between the TDV6 and the TDV8, is the Bore x stroke ratio.

Almost everything else, as far as engine block is concerned, is different. V6 is a 60º wereas the V8 is a 90º block. That alone invalidates most of similarities, except of course, turbos, chains, valves, etc...
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You'd think if a 60 degree V6 fitted, there'd be height for a 90 degree V8 of the same basic dimensions.
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This story is popping up all over the place. I just wonder if some of that original German letter lost something in translation.

This specifc link is showing old spy shots from the 2010MY refresh, they've been around for a while.

June 17th is the Range Rover's 40th birthday - press releases went out today - June 1st.

And personally, the diesel doesn't mean much to me, but further interior refinement is something I'm looking forward to. I realize they just updated everything, but maybe they have something else up their sleeves. Back in 2005, they upgraded the ICE, but the Jaguar engines didn't follow until the next year, if I remember correctly.
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So is shifting some production to china.
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Range Rover's new 4.4 TDV8 (2011) spied

This car is proof that Land Rover is preparing a new 4.4-litre V8 diesel that will offer more power, more torque, but better mpg and CO2 figures.
Numbers and figures on this new Range Rover please?

A quick check on the registration plate reveals that a 4397cc engine powers this Range Rover – it’s the company’s new 4.4-litre twin-turbo diesel, which replaces the current 3.6 V8. We hear power goes up from 267bhp to around 310bhp, the torque output climbs from 472lb ft to 516lb ft (a nice round 700Nm), and fuel consumption improves from 25.4mpg to over 30mpg. The CO2 figure gets better too, dropping from 299g/km CO2 to somewhere in the region of 250g/km.

The 2011 Range Rover is expected to be revealed at the Moscow motor show in August, alongside the facelifted Freelander, and MY11 variants of the Discovery and Range Sport – the latter are expected to inherit the Range Rover’s split-screen monitor which lets the driver study the sat-nav while the front-seat passenger watches a film on the same screen.

The Range Rover is also 40 this year, so Land Rover is readying a 40th anniversary special edition. Our spies have snapped it too (see the bottom left picture), and as well as a new bodykit (note the exhaust trims and revised rear bumper) there'll be lots of unique trimmings inside. It'll be built in limited numbers, and sold in both TDV8 and 5.0 s/c guise.
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Now that's a serious sounding engine. 700Nm! :shock:
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Had a chance to ride in the 2011 Range Rover Vogue here in the US. Land Rover was testing the UK, German, and Russian spec vehicles and they stopped at our dealership for service/refuel. This twin-turbo diesel engine is unbelievably powerful (same 0-60 as our 5.0 Supercharged V8), smooth, and quiet. They hadn't installed the engine dampers yet and it was still quieter than our Supercharged models. I wouldn't have been able to tell when the transmission was shifting if I wasn't looking at the readouts on the laptop (they were testing the new 8-speed ZF). Ridiculous. I think they were putting out 560 lb-ft of torque and there was room for one more gear in the box. The ZF engineer predicted over 700 lb-ft if they went with 9 gears! The most impressive feature was that we were running them down the highway at 62 mph and the engine was at 1,200 rpm and instant fuel economy was saying 46-49 mpg (US miles per gallon, mind you). And we will never see that engine here in US :(

If you live in Europe and have the means, it is worth every bloody penny to do stall starts and not be able to lean forward through third gear. If not for yourself, do it for the rest of us who will never get the chance...
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Wow - great info - any interior changes you noticed?
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The biggest change that I saw inside when they stopped at our dealership after doing cold weather testing was the addition of the round shifter that Jaguar has been using since the XF came out, and the reconfiguring of the Terrain Response control. Not real sure that I was crazy about it, but I have gotten really used to the ones in all of the Jags now so you can never tell.
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Autocar just let it drop that the new interior lay out will indeed have a Jag style rotary controller and shift paddles behind the steering wheel .
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I was just wondering what they were going to do about the "manual" shift - I didn't know if they'd add more stuff to the new busy steering wheel or if they'd just get rid of that functionality.

Sounds good though!

Any links or is it in the print mag?
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There it is:
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Not sure I completely get it, but here it is from another angle - in the 40th Anniversary Autobiography Black:
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And you can see the down-shift paddle in that last shot.
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Last one, I promise - here are all the official pics they've released:

http://www.roverhaul.com/galleries/2011rrofficial

http://www.roverhaul.com/galleries/2011rangeroverle
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