2010 Range Rover Glass Cockpit

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davepl

Discussion Starter · Feb 9, 2010

The new 2010 Range Rover uses a fully digital dash (ie: a computer screen with simulated gauges). I'm really very curious about the possibility of customizing it.

I've reverse-engineered a number of things in the past (GM's LT1 ECU, Atari Tempest, etc) but this is a little more daunting; the cars now have 20 ecus unlike the 1 or 2 when I last was active in hacking on things.

In order to start even searching for the information I need, here's what I'd like to do; I'd really appreciate it if someone knowledgeable with late-model CAN systems could jump in help in even figuring out what I need to start hunting for!

1) First I'm wondering if I would want to remove the instrumentation pack ECU and try to speak directly with it of if I should be attempting to do this over the CAN bus via the OBD2 interface connector

2) If I can manage to communicate with the instrument pack somehow, what are the odds that I'll be able to download a current copy of its internal flash memory? In other words, do manufacturers intentionally encrypt current flash and updates to the flash to prevent tampering, or can I expect it to be reasonable open?

I guess in my ideal world I'd be able to load the flash image into my IDAPRO disassembler, set the appropriate CPU type, and let it take a crack at it, but getting to that stage I'm not sure where to start!

Thanks,
Dave

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BBS SPY

· #2 · Feb 19, 2010

Hiya Dave, the Via Diagnostic route is not your answer, as this just provides certain services. However one diagnostic service provided, is the capability to upload of the entire flash contents with a file/files, called .VBF (Volvo Binary format)
so you don't have to worry about reading that flash data its already provided.
If you want, i can supply you with such a file for the 2010 instrument pack for you to have a nosy through. But they are readily present and easily accessible to anyone with an IDS system.
To my knowledge and understanding the Data in the .VBF is not encrypted and there are often EXE files for the operating system, and DATA files with everything else.

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Hoges

· #3 · Feb 20, 2010

The new 2010 Range Rover uses a fully digital dash (ie: a computer screen with simulated gauges).

Oh dear! read the history of the audi TT digital dash... stuff of nightmares

good luck!!!

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John W

· #4 · Feb 21, 2010

Hoges said:
The new 2010 Range Rover uses a fully digital dash (ie: a computer screen with simulated gauges).

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Oh dear! read the history of the audi TT digital dash... stuff of nightmares

good luck!!!

Dont know why it should be an issue.I have flown aircraft for years with EFIS.(Electronic Flight Information Systems) where all guages are synthetically generated on CRTs and nowadays on LCD screens :thumb:

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Hoges

· #5 · Feb 22, 2010

Dont know why it should be an issue.I have flown aircraft for years with EFIS.(Electronic Flight Information Systems) where all guages are synthetically generated on CRTs and nowadays on LCD screens

that's true...and a great advance they are too... spent 14 yrs working for both manufacturer of same and also major customer... and am looking forward to a retrofit into a C172 one of these days ...$$$

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Commercial cockpits and indeed military aircraft ...the environment is somewhat more benign compared to that of the average car, let alone a 4wd 'in harms way' wrt temp and vibration dust etc (some would argue that a Range Rover is fast ceding its claim to be a "proper" 4wd anyway ...but that's a different argument 8-0= :lol: ... "They" will need a huge improvement in the 'ruggedisation' to make them a cost effective replacement for current technology.

Mind you if such were the case and I could display real time output in my P38A from my BBS Faultmate SV... ****...another distraction...

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John W

· #6 · Feb 22, 2010

Hoges said:
Dont know why it should be an issue.I have flown aircraft for years with EFIS.(Electronic Flight Information Systems) where all guages are synthetically generated on CRTs and nowadays on LCD screens

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that's true...and a great advance they are too... spent 14 yrs working for both manufacturer of same and also major customer... and am looking forward to a retrofit into a C172 one of these days ...$$$ :thumb:

Commercial cockpits and indeed military aircraft ...the environment is somewhat more benign compared to that of the average car, let alone a 4wd 'in harms way' wrt temp and vibration dust etc (some would argue that a Range Rover is fast ceding its claim to be a "proper" 4wd anyway ...but that's a different argument 8-0= :lol: ... "They" will need a huge improvement in the 'ruggedisation' to make them a cost effective replacement for current technology.

Mind you if such were the case and I could display real time output in my P38A from my BBS Faultmate SV... ****...another distraction...

Really I thought my BBS faultmate coupled to my toughbook could do just that :thumb:
As for the cockpit enviroment, Pressure, Temperature, radiation changes and I have certainly had more S...t shaken out of me in CAT and Thunderstorms than I have ever experienced offroad in my P38 :lol: :clap:

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Hoges

· #7 · Feb 23, 2010

As for the cockpit enviroment, Pressure, Temperature, radiation changes and I have certainly had more S...t shaken out of me in CAT and Thunderstorms than I have ever experienced offroad in my P38

good to see you survived to tell the tale :wink: :thumb:

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The boss

· #8 · Feb 24, 2010

Don't do it cause we will have to reset the maintenance light and reset the entire thing shortly thereafter. Whenever its brought to the dealership for anything and hooked up with ids it will be reset.

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