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I have a p38 that needs the EKA code putting in but it wont accept the code and keeps going into a 30 minute lock out. i have tested the micro switchs in the door latch and they all work but the motors are both burnt out would this effect the EKA code being input. The side light warning light flashes as eack keyturn is returned to center position but when i turn key to start i get engine disabled still then after 3 attempts it goes into loclout and needs leaving 30 mins to reset.
I have confirmed with land rover that it is the coorect code.
 

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It should say push remote when you try to start, are you leaving it till the dash is clear of anything, if so , if yours is a Thor ( Bosch) just open the door and go straight for the ignition, Thor’s very rarely need the eka.
 

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If the microswitches are OK then do you have the correct EKA code? Are you giving it 4 turns to the left to put it into EKA accept mode first?
 

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I have tried everything I am now convinced that the eka is the wrong one maybe it’s the becm replaces in the past. Where is the best place to send it to be unlocked I have read forum and pm’ed marty but have had no reply as yet. I could do with getting it done ASAP.
 

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If side light is flashing when code is entere it means becm is recognizing input procedure. If code is not unlocking your vehicle it clearly means that code is wrong. If code was checked by dealer and confirmed it means that becm was replaced. There is a high probability that becm was not locked just after reprogramming (lock some gentle data on becm rom to prevent them to be visible by scanning tool) for your vehicle (what is good and should'nt be locked because those mode give you more option in future). If so, then all you need is to connect by nanocom or other dedicated diagnostic tool and check EKA code programmed in becm in Alarm options. Anyway, if nanocom will be available you can switch off immobilizer at alarm options.
 

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That was what I was thinking the becm may have been changed. If I got nanocom would I be able to switch off immobiliser even tho it is locked.
 

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Where in the world are you? There may well be someone local that has a Nanocom or similar that can help. Where have you got the EKA from? I've come across more than one car that had random 4 digit numbers hand written on the owners handbook that weren't correct. The BeCM doesn't need to be unlocked, it just needs the correct EKA entering. If both the key and CDL microswitches are OK, then it should accept it. It needs both to be working, the key switch tells the BeCM that you have turned the key, the CDL tells it which way you are turning it. If the CDL isn't working, then the lights will still flash but it will think you are always turning the key one way.
 

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I now know the problem a guy came round with a nanocom and even after disabling eka and the immobiliser it still says engine disabled. The vin is wrong the mileage was stupidly high the transmission said manual when it’s an auto and it has changed to french do it appears the becm has corrupted its memory and will have to be sent away for repair unless anyone knows if it’s possible to code a second hand one to the car and it’s engine ecu.
 

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1) If you have nanocom connected go to "becm" then to "settings" then to "alarm" and scroll to end of menu to see EKA code value - it will give you possibility to verify eka given by dealer.
you can see what I mean here (just sellect "emulator" on page):
https://www.nanocom-diagnostics.com/
2) If still no clue what other could be still wrong, check immobiliser code compatibility of becm to engine ecu:
"motronic" => "settings" => "immobilization code" should be the same as:
"becm"=> "settings" => "alarm" => "immobilization code"
those two values has to be the same.
 

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Mark, where are you located? You do NOT need a used BeCM and matching ECU. There are folks on both sides of the pond that can reset your current BeCM and saving proper odometer reading, settings and restoring your language.
 

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Mark, wait for Marty to get back to you, he works away a lot and sometimes due to his work load doesn’t get on here as often as he used to.
i see you bought 2 dse rangies, have you got the other one going ?
 

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If the Nanocom is giving duff information that means it isn't communicating with the BeCM properly so you won't be able to change any settings. It will look like you have but they won't be saved. Telling you French when it's giving information in English on the dash is the big giveaway.

Wait for Marty to pick this up, he can give you the exact details of what you need to do.
 

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Sounds as though the Becm has gone into an alarmed state. It thinks it is being nicked.
I have had BECMs switch to fictitious settings and in the french language. It seems to be deliberate coding in the BECM firmware as an extra level of security.
You will need a Faultmate to reset the BECM logic board.
 

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1) If you have nanocom connected go to "becm" then to "settings" then to "alarm" and scroll to end of menu to see EKA code value - it will give you possibility to verify eka given by dealer.
you can see what I mean here (just sellect "emulator" on page):
https://www.nanocom-diagnostics.com/
2) If still no clue what other could be still wrong, check immobiliser code compatibility of becm to engine ecu:
"motronic" => "settings" => "immobilization code" should be the same as:
"becm"=> "settings" => "alarm" => "immobilization code"
those two values has to be the same.
Is it possible to read the EKA code from the BECM with the Nanocom?
 

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Dave, French is side effect not an added level of security.

Reinhound, special software, lacquer removal on the logic board and soldering are required to handle this situation. Again until we know where Mark is located we are unable to point him to the correct BeCM specialist.

Apparently he is in Manchester.
 

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Toad Hall is right
- French means BECM has lost its memory and it is in lockout
- EKA should *never* be disabled, I always enable it so that there is a plan Bee
- you cannot inspect the EKA with a Nanocom

Why did it lock itself?
if your door lock motors don't work, it doesn't help.. Without the driver side one, I wonder how it passed Marty's test ®

I unlocked this one on Wednesday. the door locks were fine but guess what the connectors looked like. You better control yours

Hence , you also have to check C1284&5 to your outstation carefully


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I'm now going to disagree with two people. I've had French and various other odd settings shown by Nanocom and it didn't need to be sent away, it just meant it was in Alarmed state, not Lockout. This was on a car that had EKA set as disabled in the BeCM (as anette says, not a clever thing to do) so there was no other option. To get it out of alarmed state and to bypass the EKA procedure, pull the drivers door panel off, unplug the connector to the latch, ground the blue/red and green/red simultaneously and if the central locking fires into life and unlocks (and then relocks) all the doors, if you turn the ignition on, the message centre may well tell you the alarm had been triggered but it should no longer be immobilised,

You can use Nanocom to read the EKA but only on a Thor, not on GEMS as Chris has already pointed out.
 

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You were lucky... I should have said EKA 9999, French and sell by date :-( in 1920 or was it 1919.

This one with the swiss cheese floor panel was in French :) it should have been Swiss but yes a lovely lockout
 

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I believe this BECM has actually just been on my bench last night - I got an email from Mark (haven't been on here much as away working and it's been crazy) and it got dropped off last night (I'm putting 2 and 2 together here from what I've read on here vs my email conversations and concluding it's the same one!)

The BECM was indeed in an alarm and EKA lockout, and the EKA was different to the one that he had written down. The interesting thing for me is that the BECM had been read before, was in an 'unlocked' state (regarding programming lock) and the EKA was set to 1212... which incidentally is what I usually reprogram EKA codes to if an owner wants it changed - as it means less turns in the door lock!.... So I'm now wondering if the BECM has been to ME before with a previous owner. I send a printout with every BECM reset I do to show before/after programming, so that any changes like this are documented for future!

The outcome though - that it's now reset, EKA programmed back to what the owner has written down, and I'm dropping it off to someone who's taking it back to him on my way to work today.

Fingers crossed that sorts it. I'm going to have a look through my BECM programming records and see if one with that VIN number has been here before...

Marty
 
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