'10 RRS is a disappointment in snow

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BWB RRS HSE

Discussion Starter · Dec 20, 2009

Took the new ride out in 2"-6" of semi-plowed snow set on the snow setting and was all over the place. Gotta believe the main issue is the 275 wide tires that came on it. Or the tire type; they say M+S on them but Tire Rack catagorizes the new Michelin Latitude Diamaris as "Street/Sport Truck Summer" - whats up with that?

Anyone else got any feedback on narrower tires (like 255's), these tires or better snow tires that are all season type?

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BWB RRS HSE

Discussion Starter · #2 · Dec 20, 2009

http://www.tirerack.com/winter/tech/tec ... techid=125

This link seems to sum it up; M+S are NOT snow tires!!!!

kstatenupe

· #3 · Dec 20, 2009

When did LR start stocking their trucks with Snow tires? It's not like the only cats they sell to are people in north and south poles.

Sorry you didnt have a good experience with your truck.

Lone Rangerover

· #4 · Dec 20, 2009

The problem is not with the width of the tires. I run 275/40/20 pirelli ice & snows.

The difference between these and stock 20s is literally day and night.

Think of the stock tires as a nice pair of Armani dress shoes. Great with a tuxedo, but not much to go climbing a snow capped mountain or even an icy driveway in.

Snow tires are a must if you drive ANY vehicle in temps below 7 degrees celcius - whether it's a Porsche or a land rover

last year I drove my 2 wheel drive 911 with 4 dedicated snows up a hill where many SUVs including an rrss was stuck. The rrss was onstock 20 inch summers.

Don't risk your life or even a crash in cold temperatures on stock non snow tires.

They pay for themselves with the first avoided accident.

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vinniman

· #5 · Dec 20, 2009

BRE.

The 'Lone Rangerover' couldn't of said it any better - so I think it's best to have a second set of rims with dedicated Snow tyres ?

Check the speed rating on thy Miche's, as any reference letter above "Q" clearly states your rubber is designed for high speeds.

From an active safety perspective, all Four tyres are the most important part of any vehicle which I've stressed on numerous threads from this forum that will prove your daily ride confidence in adverse conditions in which ever part of the globe we live !

Cheerio,

Vinniman
'88 Highline
Perth, W.A.

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Leo

· #6 · Dec 20, 2009

You can't blame the car if it is on the wrong tyres. No tyre is good in both summer and in severe winter conditions. Get a set of winter tyres and the RRS will amaze you. :thumb:

BWB RRS HSE

Discussion Starter · #7 · Dec 20, 2009

kstatenupe said:
When did LR start stocking their trucks with Snow tires? It's not like the only cats they sell to are people in north and south poles.

Sorry you didnt have a good experience with your truck.

My point, if I did not make it well, is that the tires that came stock seem to be more a summer tire than an all season and the vehicle was purchased in PA. Other SUV's I have purchased came with All-season tires that were measurably better in the snow. Just surprised the stock skins are so bad in the white stuff......

BWB RRS HSE

Discussion Starter · #8 · Dec 20, 2009

Thanks for the advice guys. Ordered up 4 of these (275/40/20) from TireRack this morning. According to the Michelin website - they have really good braking performance and are Winter certified with the "snowflake".

Michelin Latitude Alpin

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TripleE

· #9 · Dec 20, 2009

BWB RRS HSE said:
the tires that came stock seem to be more a summer tire than an all season

That's interesting they say M+S on them, I'm curious to hear what other '10s are coming with. IMO, all-seasons = summers in the snow anyway. Good to hear you picked up a set of winters! :thumb:

redman1

· #10 · Dec 21, 2009

Unfortunately M+S means nothing. I just went from an 06 S/C to a 10 HSE w/ lux and while they might be fine for the inch or two on the ground they wouldn't be good for a blizzard. I had a set of Nokian WR SUVs that I had for my 06. Just put them on my new RRS on Friday. Drove from Boston to DC yesterday during the blizzard. Had no problems, I just go delayed by everyone else who didn't have good snow tires.

1953

· #11 · Dec 21, 2009

I love my Noikian WRs, Z-rated, winter extreem DOT rated, only complaint they sing over 85MPH. My typical daily crusing speed is 82-92 range.

redman1

· #12 · Dec 21, 2009

I never notice the noise above 85+ MPH. I usually travel 80-85 with some stints over that. I'll have to pay more attention, maybe my radio hides the noise

. I will say this is going to be my 4th winter with the same tires and they last forever. I do about 16K miles per year, probably half that in the with the snows on, and the wear indicator that runs down the center of the tire with the 4mm, 6mm, 8mm readings. The 6mm is still very visible.

q-rover

· #13 · Dec 21, 2009

BFG MT's have M+S on them but they are useless as a snow tyre.
There is no such thing as an all season tyre, if you live somewhere
that regulary gets snow, then get snow tyres.

Your new super dooper alll singing all dancing LR may be good in a
straight line, but it's when you need to turn and brake that your
tyres need to be specc'ed for the conditions. 2700Kg of LR sliding
outt of control is no fun, even at 10Mph.

1953

· #14 · Dec 21, 2009

redman1 said:
I never notice the noise above 85+ MPH. I usually travel 80-85 with some stints over that. I'll have to pay more attention, maybe my radio hides the noise . I will say this is going to be my 4th winter with the same tires and they last forever. I do about 16K miles per year, probably half that in the with the snows on, and the wear indicator that runs down the center of the tire with the 4mm, 6mm, 8mm readings. The 6mm is still very visible.

I put the Nokian Haka "R" s on the Audi, they are whining too over 80. But they are strictly a winter tire only , so doesn't surprise me really.

Phil07_RRS

· #15 · Dec 21, 2009

like the others i picked up a set of Nokian WR tires and have had nothing but good results. My 07 came with summer tires too.

gooseyloosey

· #16 · Dec 21, 2009

RoverfreakNH said:
My typical daily crusing speed is 82-92 range.

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1953

· #17 · Dec 21, 2009

Phil07_RRS said:
like the others i picked up a set of Nokian WR tires and have had nothing but good results. My 07 came with summer tires too.

I have both, WRs on the Rover, Rs on the Audi, I'm only going to be running the WRs on the rover from now on, including summer driving. They Audi on the other hand, I'm going to have to do winter and summer swaps.

ChipN

· #18 · Dec 21, 2009

Driving around Denver in what is turning out to be a hard winter with Nitto Graplers is really easy. Nothing stops this truck and it is very stable on slick. We had three feet in Oct and my 09 RRS busted right through the drifts.

erdrff

· #19 · Dec 22, 2009

BWB RRS HSE said:
Thanks for the advice guys. Ordered up 4 of these (275/40/20) from TireRack this morning. According to the Michelin website - they have really good braking performance and are Winter certified with the "snowflake".

Michelin Latitude Alpin

I got these same tires for my 2010 RRS SC. The original "summer" Michelin tires were horrible in the snow (after driving through it here in MI for one day). Got these Michelin Latitude Alpin tires from TireRack with the "snow and mountain" logo on the side and it is a night and day difference. Talk about grip and complete power through deep snow! You have gotta switch to snow tires to really enjoy the snow and the power of this beast of an SUV!

BWB RRS HSE

Discussion Starter · #20 · Dec 22, 2009

erdrff said:
BWB RRS HSE said:

Thanks for the advice guys. Ordered up 4 of these (275/40/20) from TireRack this morning. According to the Michelin website - they have really good braking performance and are Winter certified with the "snowflake".

Michelin Latitude Alpin

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I got these same tires for my 2010 RRS SC. The original "summer" Michelin tires were horrible in the snow (after driving through it here in MI for one day). Got these Michelin Latitude Alpin tires from TireRack with the "snow and mountain" logo on the side and it is a night and day difference. Talk about grip and complete power through deep snow! You have gotta switch to snow tires to really enjoy the snow and the power of this beast of an SUV!

As Led Zeppelin once said "the song remains the same"...your making me feel a lot better about my investment...how are the Mich's regarding tire noise???

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