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Garrycol, what is that antenna used for. If that was here in the US I would say it is for a 30k watt radio station... my word that is massive and may limit travel in the woods.
 

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HAM radio and CB... of course according to Ron Beckett front mounting like that is highly illegal in Australia... you cause even more injuries to a pedestrian on their way under.:roll:
 

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Garry, actually this isn't an LR3 ARB. It's an LR4 Summit ARB. And no modification to the mounts. Does require other custom work to fit to the RRS, especially a Supercharged model.
Only seen 1 other RRS in the USA with this style ARB. More pics to come if moderators will allow...
 

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It will be a LR3 bull bar - there are no specific bars for the RRS. They go on with a little modification to the mounts.
Garry, while an ARB for '05-09 LR3 will fit the RRS(as you show in the 2 pictures), mine is actually an ARB Summit for the '14-16 LR4; updated larger foglights, clear foglight covers, and different cut on the bumper's "side wings" as an LR4's fender flare wraps further down to the ground (compare this with the the LR3 where the upper bumper side edge is straight as it travels towards the tire). So, fitting the ARB Summit from the LR4 to the requires custom metal "inserts" to be fabricated, which will take up the space between the side wing and fender. Now, also depending on the tire size, you may have to make other mods...for example the large 275/70/18(33.16") tires I have fitted, are now contacting the ARB's "side wings" where they face the front tires(near wheelwell liner) and ARB lower bumper shrouds.
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Also needed for this bumper on the Supercharged engine (the same may be needed for the LR3 bumper, I haven't fitted one to a RRS) is relocation of the supercharger's air/oil cooler. Also needed to build a custom wiring harness for the PDC(parking sensors), custom 9006 pigtails for the foglight wiring. I lost my ACC but working on configuring standard Cruise Control. But I feel it's all worth it for the updated ARB look.
Added 2 ARB Intensity 9.7" LED's (ARB USA suggests that for LHD, a spot beam on the driver side, flood on the passenger side).
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Yes as you have an earlier RRS I assumed it was the matching LR3 bar. While we have LR3/4 bars fitted to many RRS here, it is actually illegal, even if they fit as the bar has to pass compliance for the car type it is fitted to - and carry the appropriate compliance plate. None of the manufacturers such as ARB, Opposite Lock and ECB have gone down the route of compiling their LR3/4 bars for the RRS.

The large aerial fitted to the black RRS is a HF aerial fitted for outback communications. Was very common once a time but with the advent of cheap satphones they are becoming less common. Noting that Australia is the same size as mainland USA and unlike the US there is still nothing in the middle - virtually no infrastructure, no mobile phones except around some settlements. If you have an accident it is a long wait and if medical attention is required the Royal Flying Doctor Service will probably have to be used to fly in and pick you up in their flying ambulances. So in the good old days you would call for help on your HF radio.

Yes - the HF aerial is illegal to be mounted at the front because it blocks vision from the drivers seat - these days it would be normally mounted at the back of the vehicle on the spare wheel bracket or one made up.
 

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Yes as you have an earlier RRS I assumed it was the matching LR3 bar. While we have LR3/4 bars fitted to many RRS here, it is actually illegal, even if they fit as the bar has to pass compliance for the car type it is fitted to - and carry the appropriate compliance plate. None of the manufacturers such as ARB, Opposite Lock and ECB have gone down the route of compiling their LR3/4 bars for the RRS.

The large aerial fitted to the black RRS is a HF aerial fitted for outback communications. Was very common once a time but with the advent of cheap satphones they are becoming less common. Noting that Australia is the same size as mainland USA and unlike the US there is still nothing in the middle - virtually no infrastructure, no mobile phones except around some settlements. If you have an accident it is a long wait and if medical attention is required the Royal Flying Doctor Service will probably have to be used to fly in and pick you up in their flying ambulances. So in the good old days you would call for help on your HF radio.

Yes - the HF aerial is illegal to be mounted at the front because it blocks vision from the drivers seat - these days it would be normally mounted at the back of the vehicle on the spare wheel bracket or one made up.
Hi Garry, thanks for the heads up on the AUS scene. So what is the repercussion if they get stopped by the police for something else, and can't provide the appropriate compliance plate? Have to remove the bumper, show a judge proof of such (what we call a fix-it ticket here in the USA)?
 

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If the vehicle is caught (realistically unlikely) then the vehicle will be defected - will be some sort of fine, removal of the bar and a new roadworthy inspection.

Most likely to be picked up if the car has to do a roadworthy inspection such as change of ownership or maybe an annual inspection but the inspector would need to know which is unlikely . The real issue is if there is an accident where there could be insurance implications.
 

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They got the 275/70/18 tires on the Compomotive PD1881's. Supposedly experiencing some rubbing at full lock. Now time for some slight trimming I'm told. Should do well offroad once clearanced, and I'm loving the look.

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What is your plan on how to deal with the issue of the tyres on the body work if the suspension has a hissy fit and it goes down to the bump stops?

My advice would be an emergency EAS inflation kit so that you can pump up each corner individually with a tyre air compressor so bypassing the car's systems. Of course if you had a split airbag ir would not help but then you would be in deep do do anyway.

Are you using rods or a height controller like LLAMS to get lift over your tyres? I have LLAMS and would be lost without it and I only run 265/60R18.

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I am running the Proud Rhino SYA kit on mine. There is no place for the front limit straps to mount but the rears are same as the lr3-lr4.
 

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Are there any concerns with running a high lift and putting undue stress on the CV joints? Seems like they may be close to binding? I do know the lift changes the alignment and it may be a good idea to have it checked once the lift is completed. I run about 2" lift and that required some adjustments on the rack.
It looks great by the way.
 

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I ran my car for a long time raised (only about an 1") above onroad height and had not issues with the CVs - I think that for normal onroad use you will get away with a 2" lift with onroad height selected.

Unfortunately the CVs are not the strongest and where experience here in Aust shows up them failing is when offroad, at high heights, steering right over and weight transfer to that side. With LLAMs I can lift my car to the equivalent of super extended height and when offroad I am very aware of this issue.

But if you are not going to heard offroad you should be OK. If you do go offroad, you will be Ok at offroad height and 2" lift and your big tyres) but if you get grounded and it automatically lifts I would be vary wary and keep the steering wheel straight.

Are you putting a winch in the bull bar and an ARB air locker in the front diff?
 

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What is your plan on how to deal with the issue of the tyres on the body work if the suspension has a hissy fit and it goes down to the bump stops?

My advice would be an emergency EAS inflation kit so that you can pump up each corner individually with a tyre air compressor so bypassing the car's systems. Of course if you had a split airbag ir would not help but then you would be in deep do do anyway.

Are you using rods or a height controller like LLAMS to get lift over your tyres? I have LLAMS and would be lost without it and I only run 265/60R18.

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Hi Garry, working on this using some ARB components. Agreed on split bag; will make sure that bags are inspected on oil changes.

Using the Lucky8/Proud Rhino SYA OffRoad bump stop spacer kit w/ rods; https://www.lucky8llc.com/collections/bump-stop-extension-kit-10/products/proud-rhino-sya-off-road-extension-kit-plus
Same as LR4 but front strap length different for RRS.

Also have a LLAMS that just arrived. Anxious to get this installed--heard good things! Glad you approve of yours!
 

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Are there any concerns with running a high lift and putting undue stress on the CV joints? Seems like they may be close to binding? I do know the lift changes the alignment and it may be a good idea to have it checked once the lift is completed. I run about 2" lift and that required some adjustments on the rack.
It looks great by the way.
Thanks much!
Per Erik at Lucky8 and the SYA OffRoad kit; "The stand out features in this kit over the street kit is that we have included limiting straps and Proud Rhino 2.5” Lift Rods. With the bump-stop spacers, you gain additional 2" down travel and may run the risk of over flexing the axles of your Land Rover. When this happens, you run a higher chance of binding the CV joints beyond their capability, which can cause failure. The limiting strap will prevent this from happening and keep you moving on the trails."

Alignment will be set for best tire wear.
 

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I ran my car for a long time raised (only about an 1") above onroad height and had not issues with the CVs - I think that for normal onroad use you will get away with a 2" lift with onroad height selected.

Unfortunately the CVs are not the strongest and where experience here in Aust shows up them failing is when offroad, at high heights, steering right over and weight transfer to that side. With LLAMs I can lift my car to the equivalent of super extended height and when offroad I am very aware of this issue.

But if you are not going to heard offroad you should be OK. If you do go offroad, you will be Ok at offroad height and 2" lift and your big tyres) but if you get grounded and it automatically lifts I would be vary wary and keep the steering wheel straight.

Are you putting a winch in the bull bar and an ARB air locker in the front diff?
Thanks Garry.

ComeUp Gen2 9.5; http://shop.comeupusa.com/p/seal-gen2-9-5n-naked-winch?pp=12
I already had brand new 3/8" x 125' synthetic line from a previous project, so this has been installed. Had a Factor55 ProLink from that other project, but they found it prohibited the ARB flip-down/up license plate holder from resting in the down position, and PDC would get angry. So removed the ProLink and going with the new Flatlink Multimount; https://factor55.com/product/flatlink-multimount-new/

Goal is to eventually go with an ARB air locker #RD217 in front yes; https://www.arbusa.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/landRover3.pdf
That will be some time though. Need to go enjoy the truck as it is, once all the trimming is done for these 33s.
 
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