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  • June 10th, 2019, 12:25 AM
    RRLondon

    Re: 1994 Classic - Restore or Part Out?

    There's certainly many different points at which you'd wish to be involved with one of these, as you say though, once started they probably drag you in further than initially appreciated.

    At least you've rescued this one, set it on it's way to recommissioned status, and sounds like you've found an "employee" for it to enjoy its future. That's a good story.

    Warning, that itch will probably be back at some point as you look around and see others using them, you've not got away from ownership just yet
  • June 9th, 2019, 03:33 AM
    DanielDD

    Re: 1994 Classic - Restore or Part Out?

    Gentleman - I have sold this vehicle to someone that can fully appreciate the vehicle and bring it back to life. He picked it up yesterday and is genuinely excited to get it running as he has wanted one since before he was old enough to have one. Before I let it go, I believe I got it to a point to where he can hopefully get it running with not too much trouble. After freeing up the engine, I pulled the fuel pump, which had mostly disintegrated due to sitting in a couple gallons of gas for the past 10 years. I emptied out most of the old gasoline (yuck), so it needs a final cleaning and a new pump as well as a new filter and a thorough cleaning of the fuel system and injectors before the new owner can try to get it started.

    I eventually came to my senses and quickly realized that I wouldn't be able to leave well enough alone. I would have stripped the interior and pulled the body off the chassis and turned this in to a multi year project and I simply didn't want to invest that kind of time and effort into it. So, the decision to part with it now made the most sense to me and like I said, it went to someone that is genuinely happy and interested in getting it back onto the road. I want to thank all of you for your input, help, and encouragement. I am confident that as the new owner comes online here that you will show him the same camaraderie you have shown me.
  • June 5th, 2019, 07:59 AM
    StrangeR over

    Re: 1994 Classic - Restore or Part Out?

    If you need a rewarding project and have the time and resources do it. I happen to think 94 with a regular wheelbase is the best rangey ever made. But I'm partial.... and always looking for a parts car . I agree with RRLondon.... check the integrity of all metal first to decide... unless you are going to make a frankenstein crawler or similar. Whatever you do, make sure it's fueled by fun.
  • June 4th, 2019, 03:55 AM
    Range123

    Re: 1994 Classic - Restore or Part Out?

    Bringing this beast back to life will be very rewarding. Breaking is such a shame and only really the way forward if the chassis is shot. Anything else is relatively easy if you have the time and tools.

    I had a similar purchase 4 years ago. Instead of messing around I chose to completely strip the vehicle insides all out except the lower dash and steering col. Out went seats, carpets, sound insulation, trunk floor (shot), and door cards etc. Stripped off all lights bumpers and external trims. Headlining out. Nothing thrown away. This gave me a total view of what I was really dealing with. It also allowed multiple jobs to be done on one go instead of 'discovering' new jobs as I went. Underneath took out gearbox (stuck in third) and sourced a replacement for 300.00. Axles were fine. Hub seals and brake pads / discs all round. Ancillaries all stripped out of the engine bay and refurbed / replaced over time on a learn as you go basis. Luckily I had a non abs non air con last of the hard dash. New ignition system with remote located amplifier. New sensors except lambdas which I can't get out of the exhaust and appear ok anyway. Luckily I had a running engine with good compression so no real issues with the heads etc. New brake servo due to diaphram leak. did my own brake lines (never done before but so easy).

    Retimed and puuring like a pussy cat.

    Resprayed her myself - got some orange peel so will need to 2000grit that out at some point. Refurbed the wheels myself. None of the tarting up pretty stuff is rocket science.

    Without a doubt the best thing for me was having a good sized garage - without somewhere warm and dry I just would not have bothered.

    A random selection of photos from my journey in no particular order.

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    Good luck Sir.
  • June 3rd, 2019, 10:21 AM
    DanielDD

    Re: 1994 Classic - Restore or Part Out?

    Engine is no longer seized. It took its toll on a new battery, so its back on the charger again. I pulled all the plugs and sprayed generous amounts of penetrating lubricant in each bore over a period of 3 days. Each time I tried it, it would move about 10 degrees. Finally it began to turn over with the rear drivers side throwing out alot a rust concoction. I suspect there may be a coolant breach, but too soon to know for sure at this point.

    I will need to check the gas tank and remove any gas in there as what is in there is at least 10 years old. Then I have to buy some new plugs and see if it will start. Not holding out much hope at this point, though...
  • June 1st, 2019, 08:10 AM
    Mikieman
    I will also just say one thing
    I grew up with shade tree back yard mechanics
    They would get a car truck motorcycle
    With locked motors
    They would pull the plugs and add some kind of penetrating oil
    Usual of there own concoction
    But it would loosen the motor
    And they would drive theses thing for years
    So if the motor is screwed they had nothing to loose
    Just my two cents
    This is a penetrating oil I use
    It at Lowe’s
    I would try it before I pulled the motor apart like I was a part of power nation
    Good luck with your treasure
    Mike
  • June 1st, 2019, 06:23 AM
    DanielDD

    Re: 1994 Classic - Restore or Part Out?

    Mikieman - Appreciate the help and the references! Just what I needed. Thanks to you ALL! I will report on how things look in the coming day or two. Once I get past my 3 post count, it won't take so long to reply to this thread as I am still under the moderators control...


    Hey, look at that! I'm no longer under the mods control! Great! Now I can update with pictures..
  • June 1st, 2019, 05:55 AM
    Mikieman
    The 94 fuses and relays are a little different
    But Mostly the same
    You can google it and find them also
    With the soft dash is probably has more in common with the discovery
  • June 1st, 2019, 05:51 AM
    Mikieman
    To move the seats
    Unplug seat from under seat
    Long blue plug
    Apply 12 volt. + / - to the pins across from each other to move the motors in one direction
    Reverse + / - to make motors go in opposite
    Direction
    If you don’t have the rave here are some clues
  • June 1st, 2019, 05:19 AM
    KK88RRC

    Re: 1994 Classic - Restore or Part Out?

    I would base it on the extent of the rust & if you have good welding skills. Everything else is more or less easily fixed or replaced.
    For rust, check the sills, rear crossmember, rear wheel arches, and all body mount points... also rear cargo area.

    There is a sticky with a link to the manuals. I do not think there is a specific one for 94 but the others will be close enough for now.

    Good luck!
  • May 31st, 2019, 10:41 PM
    Richard55

    Re: 1994 Classic - Restore or Part Out?

    The enthusiast in me says fix it because I hate to see these end up in the junkyard. The pragmatist in me knows that many parts are expensive or hard to find and can really add up fast.

    I would also consider the mileage, wheelbase, and interior other than the wood in the decision. While expensive, the wood is actually one of the easier items to fix as it can be re-veneered even if it is in really bad shape.
  • May 31st, 2019, 02:55 PM
    DanielDD

    Re: 1994 Classic - Restore or Part Out?

    I started pulling the plugs on the motor to determine why its locked up. I used a borescope on the passenger side. The tops of the pistons look okay as far as I can tell. The drivers side is a different story. The 1st plug on the driver side is badly corroded and the top of the piston is heavily corroded. This may account for the engine seizing problem. I still have to remove the remaining plug on the driver's side to ascertain cylinder bore/piston damage.

    Still trying to remove front seats and console to determine extent of rust situation. Seats don't move with a new battery. Could be fuses, but I don't have a manual to look these things up, yet. I believe there is a reference online so I need to check on that. It is looking more and more like this could be a part out. I don't want to be premature yet, but its not looking good...
  • May 30th, 2019, 12:04 PM
    Mikieman
    Or maybe one of those bobtails
  • May 30th, 2019, 08:58 AM
    Razorbeam

    Re: 1994 Classic - Restore or Part Out?

    I got mine from a farm field where it had been sitting intermittently for ~6 years with occasional starting and driving just to keep it semi fresh. The rust was bad in the footwells, but if you are handy with a welder you can do a lot. You can buy just about every repair panel you need.
    For parts, getting them from UK suppliers is significantly cheaper than buying stateside.
    It sounds like you are mechanically competent. It wont be an easy task, but its feasible. Very rewarding bringing something back from the dead in my opinion. If the interior is really bad, you can chop the roof and make a nice little convertible or pickup/ute.
  • May 29th, 2019, 03:48 PM
    DanielDD

    Re: 1994 Classic - Restore or Part Out?

    Thanks for the concern guys! Appreciate it. I've got a long way to go and plenty of time to explore. 1st order of business is to remove the console and seats so I can get the carpet up and inspect the rust situation.

    Wish me luck!
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